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Discussion in 'Engine Building' started by jdmnation, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. jdmnation

    jdmnation Junior Member

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    I looking into buying headers for my B16A2 and an hi-flow cat what would you guys suggest to go with to get the most power?
     
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    jamesA Well known pissed off telephone guy VIP

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    jamesA Well known pissed off telephone guy VIP

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    read the description in the title...

     
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    get the jdm dc header, copy of the oem 98+ spec ITR header, but actually makes more power and is cheaper. on honda-tech titan motorsprots is selling them for $250 shipped brand new.
     
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    hybrid89 thistownsucks...

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    no to start an argument, but I hear opposing stories as to with header actually makes more power...JDM ITR or the DC knock off. what gives?
     
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    the DC has a true 2.5" collector. the jdm oem itr has only a 2.5" doughnut on it, the collector is really like 2.25". check out the titan header test on honda-tech and see how the dc compared to the custom built headers, held its own. i've heard of people not gaining any horsepower at all using the oem itr header.
     
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    JDMilan Senior Member

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    an-r, smsp, hytech, headtech, toda
     
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    hybrid89 thistownsucks...

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    i know...i know...but all those fuckers are up there in price range!
     
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    who sell them? what about Mugen header or Spoon Header... how to they compare?
     
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    BlackFrog Neighborhood Lush

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    I want the AN-R compact version, i love that fucking header. It might put me in debt for a while, but i dont care, that thing is the shit!

    -Chris
     
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    MikeBergy Blah blah blah....

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    Like they said above, AN-R, SMSP, Headertech (I think it's a newer company). There is a reason dc and the oem type r headers are cheaper. They don't put down as much to the ground as the others. You get what you pay for IMO. SMSP has a huge waiting list from what I've seen, and the price is outrageous considering you can get an almost as good header from AN-R that still clears the power steering pump, for about 400 less. I'd go with an AN-R compact, and I will when I get my b16 swap done. Good product for the money. If you are on budget, the dc or the jdm type r are still pretty good.
     
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    an-r eh? i almost went with them... you might want to read this.
    http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=909099

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    ehh, i just read more of the thread. when i last saw it an-r had not commented at all, which i didn't like. looks like they're standing behind their product and changing the guage steel they use the make the header. just make sure you get it coated :)
     
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    yeah an-r's were breaking but they did change to a thicker pipe and they are real nice, headertech is out of business. I will be going with a bisimoto from exospeed.com, that is one sexay header.
     
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    i got a prospeed/elite for my h22. mmmm. sexy.

    i suggest not wasting your money on a highflow cat. all it is, is a perferated straight pipe with fiberglass. like a glass pack muffler. just cut it open, putin a straigh solid pipe, weld the flanges on, then weld the casing back together around it. no one will ever be able to tell the difference from a visual inspection :D
     
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    shit, the carsound hi-flo cats on eBay are the cheapest cats, or anything that resembles a cat, you can find anywhere
     
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    AN-R. I've had two, they molest JDM 4-1's throughout the entire powerband.
     
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    Great idea the only problem is that i need a welder...
     
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    even if they did break, it's not like just because you buy an expensive part its not going to break, either way I never recommend DC why, well the power output might be comparitive to the stock ITR header, but I will bet you that the ITR header will last for longer than the life of your motor and car.

    My DC header rusted in 3 months, and yes it's probably due to where I live "near ocean" but I don't give a shit - mine rusted, so I will never recommend it.


    I have seen Toda headers crack at the lower brack, shit happens.


    Either way if your going NA and want good gains from a header your going to have to fork over some cash, IMHO - the cheapest route I would go would be the JDM ITR header.

    it's hard to compare, you might even be better off with saving up for something like extra displacement.
     
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    :werd: yes, thank you for someone backing me up. finally...
     
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