here we go again. bush sucks.

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I hate freebies. I hate hand outs.

If i ever run for president, i'm going to abolish the welfare system. GET A FUCKING JOB. STOP HAVING 213123123 FUCKING KIDS WHO ARE JUST GOING TO GROW UP TO BE A PICE OF SHIT LIKE YOUR MOTHER WAS. Why should i or any american have to pay for your bastard child. Your fault. Can't afford it, abort it.

lol that has a nice ring to it. I think that will be my political slogan in 2058 :D "Can't afford it, Abort it"

social secruity- abort it. phase it out. if youre currently under 40 you will not have social security. 41+ will get benefits pro-rated per year to 65 when retirement age sets in. Basically, those folks won't have time to save for their retirement.

If you can't afford to retire, Keep fucking working. its that simple.
If you're 60, and you're physically too old to work, you're a piece of shit. theres no reaosn why any 60 yr old can't sit at a desk all day and talk on the phone or some shit.

Taxes for stupid shit will end.
You will be taxed for roads, public works, schools, stuff like that.
You will not be taxed for welfare. after 40, you will not be taxed for social secruity until it is completely phased out. then, under 40 will not be taxed for it either.
medicare, and all doctor related shit will be regulated. Set government standards for prices for health insurance. Have high co-pays for shit so losers don't go to the fucking doctor for a fucking cold. women will pay more for health insurance. Why? guys pay more for auto- girls should pay more for health. guys don't get pregnant. guys don't have gynos. gyuys don't go on the pill. girls do. girls get more cancers than guys, breast, etc. they should pay more for it the same way we guys pay more for auto our whole life.
More so, i would allow legally organ removal for cash. I'd legally donate my left nut for 50k. i still got the right one. give some dude with bad nuts a chance to have a family. sell a kidney... someone needs it. this would all be highly regulated and performaned only by qualified doctors, etc.
pot, and every other drug will be legalized, sold anywhere, and taxed heavily-- kinda like cigarettes are. Regulate it all up, make sure its usda or whatever approved, and then taxed. BUT, if you are found to be on a substance, you will be denied medial treatment at every doctor/hospital if its the cause of your sickness (ie, OD'ing). if you want to kill yourself- go for it, but you won't be costing taxpayers a dime and at the same time turning more money into the government. blow your money on blow all you want- the gov't gets out of debt. stupid people die. Darwin would be proud. By doing this, you would in effect lower crime. Street dealing and shit would be whiped out do to competition. why go find some thug who might stab you when the 7-11 has your stash for a regulated price, and you can guarantee its legit? Lower the drinking age to 18 again. impose 0 tollerace though. If you're caught driving with even 1 drink in you, 1 year license suspension. 2nd offense, 1 year in jail, and never drive again.
the roads would be safer, the economy would be improved for public transportation which is state run and can be made profitable.
If I had a direct cab/train to the bars, i would never drive when i went out ever. i'd go get shitfaced, and take the ride home. now, we go out have a few drinks, and drive home. and i mean few. regardless, having 3 drinks in your system, while it hardly effects me at all- it still does. but if i knew i don't have to drive and can louge outon a cab the way home, i'd get loaded, and stumble into my seat, nice and safe, and let mr cabbie take me home.
unfortunately, not all places will be able to do this do to its rurality (if thats even a word)

i dunno- im just rambling on here, and im sure theres going to be a lot of defense to my arguements- but think about what i said.

if you're stupid, you get nothing
if you're smart, you can prosper.

how is that not a better america?
 
I'd vote for you in a heartbeat over Bush. :moon:

2058 is a long way away though, most of that shit will probably be changed by then anyways.
 
It sounds logical, but then you alienate 80% of the Conservatives, because they are dumb bastards.
 
Originally posted by Havok@Nov 22 2004, 01:43 PM
It sounds logical, but then you alienate 80% of the Conservatives, because they are dumb bastards.
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I think that was the plan. :D
 
Even if it was the plan, they still need to cater to their simple-minded lives. After all, they aren't too dumb to go out and vote.
 
Originally posted by Havok@Nov 22 2004, 02:17 PM
Even if it was the plan, they still need to cater to their simple-minded lives. After all, they aren't too dumb to go out and vote.
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That's still the point! If they're too dumb to vote then they deserve what they get!

ooh ooh we could call him a member of the Darwin party!
 
Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Nov 22 2004, 12:56 PM
I hate freebies. I hate hand outs.

lol that has a nice ring to it. I think that will be my political slogan in 2058 :D "Can't afford it, Abort it"

girls get more cancers than guys, breast, etc. they should pay more for it the same way we guys pay more for auto our whole life.


More so, i would allow legally organ removal for cash. I'd legally donate my left nut for 50k. i still got the right one. give some dude with bad nuts a chance to have a family. sell a kidney... someone needs it. this would all be highly regulated and performaned only by qualified doctors, etc.
pot, and every other drug will be legalized, sold anywhere, and taxed heavily-- kinda like cigarettes are.
BUT, if you are found to be on a substance, you will be denied medial treatment at every doctor/hospital if its the cause of your sickness (ie, OD'ing).
if you're stupid, you get nothing
if you're smart, you can prosper.

how is that not a better america?
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i agree to some parts but what if


a husband beats the shit out of his wife that is a stay at home mom riasing two small kids a 4 year old and a 12 year old.
where does she turn? The wlfare system for 2 mounths just enough time to go out find a place to live a a decent job.

women do not get more cancers than me they get the same
breast both men and women get it.
testicular cancer, prostate cancer penile cancer.

if you legalize it thasnk about the issues with it ie crack one hit and your hooked. meth, coke, lsd


and the selling of organ thing is a good idea but once again the super rich get treatment and the poor die?
 
Originally posted by hcivic.com@Nov 22 2004, 03:29 PM

i agree to some parts but what if


a husband beats the shit out of his wife that is a stay at home mom riasing two small kids a 4 year old and a 12 year old.
where does she turn? The wlfare system for 2 mounths just enough time to go out find a place to live a a decent job.


she shouldn't have married the fuck in the first place. she was stupid. she shouldn't have had kids. if it goes bad, whatever- not our problem. go back and live with your mom.

women do not get more cancers than me they get the same
breast both men and women get it.
testicular cancer, prostate cancer penile cancer.

yes, men get it too- but women get more of it.

if you legalize it thasnk about the issues with it ie crack one hit and your hooked. meth, coke, lsd

if you're hooked, you're a funder of the state till you die from it. Life is about choices. Make them wisely.

Amsterdamn has some of the least strict laws on drugs in the world.
USA has some of the strictest.

the USA has the highest percentage of drug abusers of any nation.

Makes you wonder....

and the selling of organ thing is a good idea but once again the super rich get treatment and the poor die?


no, because there's still organ donors when peple die and such.
this is just extra stuff that you don't really need anyway. kinda like donating blood... only getting paid for it cuz you arne't dead yet. Homeboy is dying, i can sell my kidney to make him live.


and 2058, i'll be fucking old and dying of cancer myself. lol i'll be 78. F that. gotta go back a couple centuries. 2038 sounds better :)
 
Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Nov 22 2004, 03:37 PM

she shouldn't have married the fuck in the first place. she was stupid. she shouldn't have had kids. if it goes bad, whatever- not our problem. go back and live with your mom.


That's kinda like saying it's your fault your chick cheated on you. You were stupid, shouldn't have dated her in the first place.

Unless you legalize murder, this will hit a brickwall at 200mph.

Oh, and bring back prohibition... alcohol makes for violent people and leads to situations like this. Doesn't matter if YOU don't act that way, some people do.
 
I'm printing bumper stickers already:

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Originally posted by DarkHand@Nov 22 2004, 04:12 PM
I'm printing bumper stickers already:

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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OHH MAN!! You even gave me a beard.

that is fucking classic.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:
 
Originally posted by asmallsol@Nov 22 2004, 01:17 PM
New2TheCarScene, ever heard of the multi quote botton or the edit botton. Stop posting ever 2 seconds because you forgot to add more shit that came out of your ass. In every political post you make, you always use "facts" but never sorce them or put any detail into them. By saying "oh, well clinton wasn't a very good president because I said so" means Jack shit.
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Yes this is exactly the point...

Since I don't side with the majority of mostly uninformed fools, I'm the idiot here.


Everything I said could be backed up, because I don't cite it doesn't mean that there isn't evidence of it. It just means that I really don't care enough to go out on the internet and find the evidence that supports my point. Also most of what I say here is common knowledge even if you take the most basic economic class available.

A comparison between 'modern' war and wars in the past is comical in fact, any true historian or economics major would point this out. The expenses of war further back in time, were obviously no where near what they are currently. Bush isn't just wiping his ass with the money as many here seem to assume. The money is paying for all the technoligical advances that we've had over the years. The expenses of aircraft carriers, bomber plans, new bombs, new artilery, advertisement for recruitment, research and developement, etc., etc., were obviously never so costly before. If any president were to enter a war, the costs would be this tremundous as well. So to point the finger at Bush and create idiotic comparisons EVEN when adjusted for inflation, the comparison cannot be adjusted for the expense of modern times vs past times. Its comparing apples and oranges and I dont care if its a comparison between this war and all wars, or this war and one other war.

People want their cake and to eat it too. The less money spent, means the less advanced technologies we can use, means the more advents of casualties. Are you the person thats going to put dollar signs on top of the heads of our soldiers? I would hope not, but in modern America it seems as if its nothing to abandon the troops that are just doing their job. People will go so far as not support the troops at all and bash them when it wasn't their call to go there in the first place. Obviously everyone looks up to the president and bashes him for going to war, but hey guess what if you want all the liberties you have now than you asked for the war. Everyone suggests this war is over oil, its over a lot more than that, but even if taking that approach...do you want to be walking to work? Do you want the prices of oil to raise for all of the future or do you want to go and control that oil? No one ever things of the consequences. Everyone wanted a safe nation and to go out and kill all the terrorists after 9/11, well guess what this is yet another step to insure that we're safe and don't get attacked again. We may not just be going after terrorists but after a hostile nation. If you want all your luxuries here in America there's going to be a cost but very few ever think of that.

If you can disagree with anything I said above the final paragraph you're a fool. Others will argue what I said in the last paragraph is all an opinion or speculation, but I strongly think that if we did not control other nations than the outcome for the US wouldn't be so pleasant. Afterall everyone knows that we're on the 'top of the world' and everyone looks up to us/hates us, and would do whatever it takes to get to the top.
 
Originally posted by Havok@Nov 22 2004, 02:43 PM
It sounds logical, but then you alienate 80% of the Conservatives, because they are dumb bastards.
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Funny, I don't think most conservatives would disagree with that. Most of what he said was taking away programs that were started/are funded primarly by liberals... You know the guy that you the liberal votes for and not me the predominately conservative.


In a perfect world that would work great, but you've just alienated 90% of the liberal vote by cutting all those programs that they vote for and obviously would never win. I know you're just being hypothetical but unfortunately it could never work.


If we're going to take that standpoint we might as well go for a socialist society which in theory is perfect.
 
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