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Heres my setup: should I go vafc or hondata?

Discussion in 'General Tech and Maintenance' started by BigBoy, Jun 27, 2005.

  1. BigBoy

    BigBoy Senior Member

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    Im lookin to do an all motor setup and want to do some tuning. Just debating whether it will be worth it to switch to obd1 hondata or not.

    JDM B16A
    2.5 CAI
    JDM DC 4-1 Header
    Apexi ws 60mm catback
    Skunk2 stage 2 cams
    Skunk2 valve springs
    Skunk2 cam gears
    AEM fuel rail
    B&M fuel pressure regulator
    MSG fuel pressure gauge
    MSD 6A-L discharge
    MSD Pro cap
    MSD Blaster 2 coil and wire
    Accel 8.8 mm spark plug wires
    Ngk laser platinum spark plugs
    MSD 9000 rpm pill

    Dynoed without tuning 160 whp 117 tq

    planning on getting an aebs tb, rmf header, and maybe some head porting.
     
  2. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    For that setup, definitely Hondata > VAFC.
     
  3. b16coupe

    b16coupe Senior Member

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    :werd:

    or possibly uberdata

    I'm not sure but I bet with thoes cams you would benefit more with higher compression.
     
  4. sohcslammer

    sohcslammer Senior Member

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    Abso-fuckin'-lutly. You are way over cammed right now.

    And I don't totaly agree with these guys either, even though Hondata is a way better tuning device over all, the vafc will not blow your motor up, you most likely wont see any more peak wheel power from the Hondata, and converting to OBD1 can be costly and is often illegal in most states. If you are already OBD1 then of course, Hondata or Uberdata would be the obvious choice. But for OBD2 cars I recomend the AEM EMS. Granted, it's not cheap, but it's all you will ever need even if you decide to go FI later in the future...

    Just my .02 cents
     
  5. BigBoy

    BigBoy Senior Member

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    Its obd0 pr3 ecu. Ive decided to go hondata, but its alot more expensive. Hope its worth it.
     
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    ryan89crx Senior Member

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    id say Uber or Crome, cheaper than Hondata
     
  7. formby

    formby learning in progress

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    also turbo edit is cool....and get an osrtrich....from moates.net.....it lets you make changes on the fly and no need to burn chips
     
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    BigBoy Senior Member

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    I heard turboedit doesnt support vtec?

    For unber, honata, etc i would need to convert to obd1.

    If i do hondata along with the conversion it'll run me about 1000

    The vafc for $200 is looking very tempting now. Will i see much more of a gain from hondata, uber, crome, than the vafc?
     
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    ryan89crx Senior Member

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    sure does, it uses the a/c switch to activate it.
     
  10. formby

    formby learning in progress

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    wtf....yes turbo edit is like a free version of hondata...it supports everything you need to tune you ecu...all the parts you need will cost you around 250...if you buy the ostrich
     
  11. MikeBergy

    MikeBergy Blah blah blah....

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    Get a socketed pm6, turboedit, and the NG55(?) bin, and modify it to your liking on an ostrich or romulator, as turboedit supports both chip emulators. I'd also recommend the datalogging mod from gotspeed.com
     
  12. hybrid89

    hybrid89 thistownsucks...

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    If you are interested, I have an older (but brand new) Hondata 4b. fully loaded. It was the previous version right before the s200 setup came out, but it is made for OBD 0 setups. I have now converted to OBD 1 and this does me no good. brand new in the box, never installed. hit me up if you are interested.

    matt
     
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    What don't you have? :p
     
  14. ryan89crx

    ryan89crx Senior Member

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    NG60 is the current ROM
     
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    hybrid89 thistownsucks...

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    my damn hatch running!
     
  16. integraslut78

    integraslut78 Stylus DJ Extraordinaire

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    Since you only mentioned a VAFC or Hondata I will say go with Hondata, sorry Shadney I think that AEM EMS is too expensive and not necessary for this guys setup. Just my .02
     
  17. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    crome pro > *

    go to obd1, and get crome pro. its worth it. puts to shame ubercraper, and is way more versitle than honcrapa
     
  18. MikeBergy

    MikeBergy Blah blah blah....

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    Yeah, I knew they updated it when they updated TE a couple months or so ago. I haven't had time to update everything yet.
     
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