Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I think I might be so happy I could shit... I'm in the process of making a deal for 5, yes count them 5 not 4, Enkei RPF1 17x8in brand new rims for an incredible deal with brand new rubber. The rubber isn't as wide as it should be on a 8inch tire, its only 215 but I can live with that until the tires are worn and I put 235 or 245's on. If this is the real deal, I'm getting 5 rims for $500 less than it would cost me new. ...then the price of the rubber. I was going to go with cheap ass Rota Attacks but if this is the real deal, then I can't go wrong even if it is more expensive.