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Discussion in 'Accord' started by roman_pushkin, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. roman_pushkin

    roman_pushkin New Member

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    how can i find out what engine goes with what transmission like what kind of mix match i can do and into what cars will engines fit

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    Can i use a long crv block with a b20 and will it fit into a 90 accord or can i get a f23 engine and mix it with a f22 tranny.


    How can i find out these things????????????//
     
  2. BrutalB83

    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    All H and F-series engines (with the exception of the S2000 motors) and transmissions will bolt up to each other. H22 to F22 tranny, F23 to H22 tranny, H23 to F23 tranny, any of those combos will work.

    And no, you cannot simply bolt in a B20 to your Accord. It would require custom engine mounts, plus you'd have to use a B-series transmission.

    Why would you want to put a B20 in your Accord anyway? It's got less torque than the F22 that's already in your car. The Accord is heavier than a Civic or Integra, it needs that extra torque to get it moving. Stick with the F or H motors for Accords.
     
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    well right now i have a f22 in the accord and i just found a f23 vtec engine will that work with my trasmission will the transmission handle it, and will i have to change the ecu also? and about the b20 someone said that if i use a crv block in my accord it will be fast, is that true or not??
     
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    Did you read anything in my previous post?

    All of the F and H-series motors and transmissions will bolt up to each other. So yes, the F23 engine will bolt up to your F22 tranny, and yes, the transmission will be able to "handle it". The F23 doesn't really make that much more power than the motor you already have, so it shouldn't stress out the transmission.

    You will need the F23's ECU. Honestly, I would probably skip this motor. The F23 is wired for OBD2, so you're gonna have to do some major wiring or buy a conversion harness to do this swap. In my opinion it's not really worth it, considering you're only gaining about 15 horsepower.

    And once again, did you not read what I said about the B20 in my above post?

    It's not a direct swap into your car. It would require completely custom mounts, and they would have to be custom fabricated; no companies make a mount kit to put a B-series into an Accord.

    And why is that?

    Like I said above, why the hell would you want a B20 in your car? It's smaller and makes less torque than the F22 that you already have! You would spend a crapload of money to make this swap work, and you'd end up with a slower car! Totally pointless...

    Whoever told you that it would work and that it would be fast is either full of crap, or doesn't know jack about Honda tuning...
     
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    whats the difference then because how come the 02 accord ex coupe is stock is so much faster than the 90 accord ex
     
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    Who says that it is?
     
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    Sorry but i just really interested.
    is it possible to make the f22 engine a vtec?
    if i were to race with a 02 accord ex and me on the 90 accord ex and i would loose, why would that be the reason?

    is it possible for a 99 civic hx to beat a my accord i think its a d series
     
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    Yes, it is possible to put a VTEC head on your F22 block. You can use a single-cam head from the 94-97 EX, a single-cam head from the 98-02 EX, or even an H22 head. You'd need an appropriate ECU or at least a VTEC controller to make it work.

    As far as a race between you and an 02 Accord, I honestly don't know who would win, probably the 02. I'm sure it probably is slightly faster, it's making 150 horse/150 torque compared to your motor at 130 horses. What I'm trying to tell you though, is that I don't think an F23 swap is worth the money that you'd pay to get the motor and get it installed and wired up when you're only going to gain 20 horsepower. Like I said, all F23 motors are OBD2, so wiring is either going to be a pain in the ass, or it's going to require you to purchase a conversion harness, which isn't exactly cheap. If you're going to go to the trouble of swapping, I'd at least get an H23, if not an H22. They'll give you more power, a better platform to build on, and will wire in more easily.

    As far as your car versus an HX Civic, I have no idea. I'd imagine that it would probably be pretty close.
     
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    agreee


    agree with him f22 is bigger than b20
     
  10. 93civicracer

    93civicracer Oh, I do a little here and there.

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    Just get an H22. 210hp/160tq.
     
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