Discussion in 'Civic and del Sol - EG and EK' started by SunShine00, Jul 13, 2007.
I was just wondering the best ways to make good power in a b18c type R
funny, i was thinking a cam or throtle body or both, or a piston package... theres tons of stuff to do , im not sure about hp gains , and band for the buck
DUDE! I am SO gonna try that in my car sometime...
Start with a good tune up, its helps. This would include everything from a set of plugs to wires to ground wires, fuel filter, adjustable fuel regulator, New dizzy cap and rotor. Adjust your clutch....bleed it. Adjust your throttle cable, make sure your motor mounts arent broke, crack, or brittle. Have your injectors cleaned. Run fuel tank cleaner(seafoam works good) through you gas tank....its almost garanteed to clog you filter so do it before you put a new one on. Change your o2 sensor...alot of ppl overlook that. Then start with header, intake, exhaust, high flow cat, throttle body, remember that FPR you put on the tune up? youll need it when you start throwing more air in the engine. Get a fuel pressure gauge...youll want,need one. Now you can add cams, and bigger power adders. Learn how to read your spark plugs. Have fun.
you dont need an fpr
get a p28 and tune on dyno
first thanks for the help
and what kind of gains can i expect from a p28 computer and dyno tuning ?
not just more hp/tq, you get more mpg, smoother idle, vtec engagement and rev.
i would say betweem 2-10 hp and 1-7 tq gain
unless your going to waste a lot of money every time you add a part, a fpr is a great idea. dyno tuning is to expensive to do every time you add a part. you can use the fpr to adjust between tunes, saving alot of money.
also a p28 is not a cure all. the computer that was designed for you engine is what you should use for 2 reasons. 1 its illegal in most states to run anything but a matched cumputer. 2 the best way to tune most imports is with independant managment systems(hondata,chrome,etc). these will work just as good on your computer as it will on a p28. use the money you would waste on a p28 and put it to a ims.
do some research , not being a dick but i hate seing people waste money because the listened to a cookie cutter answer.
sure man, sure.
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i would go to dyno when you install most of the important stuff [cams, header, exhaust].if you stay NA you dont need to dyno more than once.
a FPR only controls how rich or lean you are not ignition timing, fuel maps and injector size and all that good stuff... it is useless like a FMU
i hate when we get idiot n00bs who think they know what they're talking about
im a noob to this sight not to cars. any computer controlled car must be adjusted after any mod.(cai,cam,exhaust ,ect). the only way to get by doing it once is to do put everything together at once, and never modify the setup again. every time you add something and dont tune you leave hp behind. fpr and adj cam gears help you to get more in between dyno tunes. its not as good as a tune but helps. any f*cking monkey knows that each time you add anything you need a tune
You cant read spark plugs can you??
Ive put a header on a car and it starter leaning and turning the plugs whiter...by having a regulator i could turn the pressure up and even out the air/fuel...its simple. What ecu u have has nothing to do with fuel pressure, but controls the injector pulse. the pressure on the injector isnt changed by te ecu.
whats the point of getting a adj fpr when you can set how much fuel enters the motor from tuning the ECU.. and adj, cam gears only allow you to retard/advance the timing.. once again, something you dont need because you can change your timing w/o adj cam gears..
you have no idea.....
Maybe you could expain it then......that would be really cool of you, im always willing to learn something.
Just curious as to why there are so many ppl on forums that are fast to knock what somebody says or catch them slipping on spelling or just be out rite rude.
I find it really lame when instead of helping the person whom makes a mistake you bust their balls. If you can take the time to beat them down cant you take the time to help them understand where they made a mistake?
Learn to read you spark plugs.....if youre like me a cant afford a dyno tune everytime you change something.
Ok so you guys think a FPR is a waste....tell me why hell you might change my views. That and im only oding what i know. FPR's are risky yeah but theyre are a cheaper still effective way to tune. If nothing esle youll be comfortable knowing you have a new adjustable regulator rather than a ten year old stock one. Heres a good example
I like how sometimes ppl forget that, they to were once a noob. Me i always try to help. Every little bit helps....if I should post false information i myself would want to know about it. Dont get me wrong though... I dont take offense to being corrected, it just pisses me off when the person corrects me but doesnt break it down for the rite way. Does this sound stupid??
well an adj fpr is not a way to tune.. i've got a mildly modded b16 and i'm running a stock fpr with ZERO problems.. but of course i had a basemap made for my p28, which is the correct way to do it.. when you've got a motor that makes some serious numbers, then you'll need the adj. fpr.. until then.. its a waste and illegal..
thank you blanco
How is it that nobody has mentioned FI yet? I have a ITR and it has responded very well to boost, i'm making 300 to the wheels on all stock internals. SC's also do pretty well. If FI isn't an option, the N/A build is always there, but pretty expensive for low gains. Don't forget, the ITR has SOME of the best parts on it already. A lot of other companies use the profile from the ITR cams for aftermarket ones. And the OEM intake and exhaust manifolds beat out a lot of aftermarket ones as well.
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