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  1. gocivicls

    gocivicls Senior Member

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    It is a post on All motor cars needing less overall HP for the same ET as a Boosted setup, because the efficiency of the powerband in the n/a car. I read it not too long ago, but I have tried searching in several diff. ways. NO LUCK!

    Anybody know what the link is for this topic???
     
  2. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    can't find it cuz, well, its not true.
     
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    gocivicls Senior Member

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    Thanks for looking. It could have been in HondaTech.
     
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    the main thing n/a cars have over turbo cars is no turbo lag.
     
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    jiahanhao Senior Member

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    B.. it is too true, that heavy intercooler and turbo must add at least 4000 metric tons to the weight of the car...
     
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    Most high power n/a hondas powerband doesnt start until 5,000 rpms A La VTEC... High powered turbo cars usually spool around 4500... You be the judge... :)
     
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    Toda's ITR pulled a 13.3 with a full interior and 205 whp at 8k rpm's (according to superstreet). Kind of interesting how that worked out....
     
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    ok and? i've see turbo d16's blast 12s... and a couple 11s....
     
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    driver1 Senior Member

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    here we go with anohtoer all motor vs boosted aguement.......

    Edit* And for that matter i say boost ownz!!!! and still will not hear the other side of the arguement because i dont beleive there is a wrthy one!
     
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    Loco Honkey Banned

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    No, you're wrong. NA cars have turbo lag all the way to redline. Sorry, but I'd rather wait a second for the turbo to spool up and double the torque output than not have any turbo spool at all and be stuck with a pathetic 130 ft lbs of torque from a 1.8L engine.

    NA is for those of you that haven't figured out how to go fast and want "respect" rather than low ETs.

    Turbo is for those of us that have a firm grasp on fluid and thermodynamics and understand the concepts of increased charge density.

    End of story. I'll now go back to my hole from which I sprang.
     
  11. Slo86GT

    Slo86GT Super Moderator

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    The original argument was in FI on Honda-Tech.

    I'm still a firm believer that if you size the turbo properly for peak power output, a 200WHP turbo car will beat a 200WHP N/A car simply because of the forced air at lower RPM levels to help torque considerably for a more flat power curve all the way to redline.
     
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    NA is for those of you that haven't figured out how to go fast and want "respect" rather than low ETs.

    maybe NA is for those of us who just don't want a turbo? or is that not ok with you?
     
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    Loco Honkey Banned

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    That's fine. I don't care what you have in your car, but you'll never be as fast.
     
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