Well, the civic lug pattern that I have happens to clear the brakes that I have on my white Z, that z also has the same lug adapters to fit Honda wheels, and those lug adapters might move over to the red Z, since I have those huge 15" wheels to fit on the the white Z. The white Z has ZG flares (flares for slightly wider wheels for Japanese Z's) and I have a set of Work's flares (Flares for extremely wide wheels for Japanese Z's) coming from Japan that will just bolt on to the white Z. The red Z, already has Cali Flares that are molded, and with those flares and the spacers off the white Z, with the civic Wats...and a decent set of 14" tires...they will look kinda hot...but no lip to be a Japanese road monster...but Celerity already bought all my 17" wheels that also would have looked hot on that car...so all I got left is the wats for a civic to fit on there....unless in my next trip to Japan this spring yields some stupid hot rims that will replace those...then their for sale.