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impossible or just expensive?

Discussion in 'Civic and del Sol - EG and EK' started by the_other17, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. the_other17

    the_other17 Junior Member

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    i've got a 93 del sol s with the stock d16. does anyone know how or if a j32a1 vtec swap is possible, and if so what would be envolved? any info would be apreciated.
     
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    If you have a Del Sol S than you have a D15, and I'm thinking that this swap would be pretty much impossible. You'd have a hell of a time even cramming it into the Del Sol engine bay regardless of the other issues you'd run into, like what tranny, axles to use, etc.

    Not to mention the motor is going to be heavy, probably more heavy than an H22, which does effect handling when swapped into a Civic.

    For all the money it would take to make it work you could just swap a B-series and have money left over to boost or build.
     
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    Not impossible, and definitely very expensive. It's going to be all custom. Good luck finding someone who's done it and is willing to give you pointers on how to install one.
     
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    i knew it would be expensive. and i know i'll need custom axles, shift linkage, a stiffer suspension, disc brake conversion. got any ideas on were i could get info on engine bay measurements, blue prints, on the del sol and the same for the engine?
     
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    waste of time and money IMO.

    it CAN be done.
    hell, you CAN put a 2jZ or rb26 in a del sol if you really want to.

    but you better have a platinum card and be willing to tube your front end.
     
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    phyregod !!YTINASNI

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    Possible, just not practical. That would make for a horrid daily driver, but it can be done. Alot of fabrication is required.
     
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    My question to you is why? Are you just trying to be unique here? Because for the same amount of money (or possibly less money even) you could have a completely built and boosted B16/B18 or even a K20 that will can make similar power numbers.

    As the other guy mentioned, if you actually do manage to get this swap done the car is going to be a horrible daily driver, not to mention that there are a lot more aftermarket parts available for a more conventional motors like the b or k series than there are for the J series motors.

    If this is going to be a show car or track only project and you've got tons and tons of cash to blow, then go for it, but if you're trying to build something that you can comfortably daily drive than trying to swap the V6 would be a dumb idea.
     
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    correct, for 1/4 the cost, you can blow away the power numbers of a v6 swap.
     
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    i was raised in the school of bigger is better but if it's so insainly expensive what whould be the best plan of action as for b18 or b16. i think they are both direct bolt on swaps. and what knid of power can i expect from each?
    thanks.
     
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    Deffinatly not going to work without alot of custom refabrication, i would go with a b series swap butit also depends on what route you are wanting to go either naturally asspirated or turbo. you can get very high numbers off of a correctly tuned b-series. i plan on going with the ls/vtec swap and turboing it. check the web, on importatlanta.com there is a ls motor with almost 700 hp at the wheels, so high numbers are possible i just cost money and great tuning.
     
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    "Bigger is better" is typically true when you're talking about RWD muscle cars with V8 engines, but it's not necessarily true when you're dealing with sport compact cars.

    That V6 is going to be a pain in the ass to cram into the engine bay, plus you'll need custom everything to make it work. The amount of weight its going to add to your car is going to have an adverse effect on the handling, so I definately think you should stick with a four cylinder.

    How much power do you want to make? That's the question you need to ask yourself. There are several routes you can go: one, go with a B16 or B18, build it, and boost it. You can also swap in the newer K20s, which make great numbers and respond well to turbo or n/a builds. K-series motors are going to be the most expensive though. Another option is to drop in an H22 (not quite bolt in but not horribly hard to install). This would give you an instant 200 horsepower and 150 something lbs torque. Do the basic bolt ons and you have a decently fast Civic with an essentially stock motor.
     
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    Bigger is better definitely holds true no matter what kind of car you're talking about. You just run into the problem of bigger being impractical in this case.
     
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    No replacement for displacement
     
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    Except Forced Induction. :ph34r:
     
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    i support your ambition. i would give it a try also if i had 15K hanging around. hell, that would probably be only half of what you need. why not buy a rear ended legend and play around with the c32. let me know how it goes. i'm excited:D
     
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    thats good, have you seen the crx with the nsx motor and tranny, now that is a crazy rear wheel drive car!

    or how about the mid engine integra, now this was expensive, check it out!
     
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