I own a 95 integra gsr with 162,000 miles and someone offered me $5000 for it,and i found a 92 hatch vx for $2200.i have saved up $2000.and i was thinkin about sellin my car buyin the hatch and swappin the motor with a b18.im not sure if i want to go ls\vtec or just buy the gsr engine. i plan on goin turbo later.and i also wanted to know how much of price difference there is between the ls\vtec and gsr (and which is better for a budget turbo set up). is there any other good places to buy engines besides HMO? thanx for all the help!!!
integra gsr or hatchback?
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Do you like your GSR? If you like the civic better, then do it. IMO I would just get the GSR motor, it boost just fine. LSvtecs can be budget, if you already have the block and can get the parts real cheap, but it needs to be built by someone that has experiance, or it can become big budget quick.
Yes, and no. Vtec heads flow better and can rev higher, better flow, more time in boost, faster spool, but they have a higher compression, so you need to tune it due to more heat, more heat = detonation, more detonation = motor go bye-bye. Ls has lower compression so less tuning, but not really less, you still want to make it function properly under boost. There are others that can give you better ideas and facts about boost.
Has your dad ever built a LSvtec? Though a competent machinist given the correct procedures could do it, it is still better to have someone with experiance there.
Has your dad ever built a LSvtec? Though a competent machinist given the correct procedures could do it, it is still better to have someone with experiance there.
thanx the only reason that im thinkin goin ls/vtec is the cost of the engine and tranny doesnt cost as much ,but i have one more question about boost .if i put on a turbo kit(not sure what kind,but i want to push about 8psi or so)what all will i have to change internally on my engine.pistons....etc
get the gsr swap dude. you'll have a somewhat more reliable swap and you'll get the tranny that you should be getting. you can run stock internals, just get it tuned properly.
geoff from full-race made 586hp on a gsr with stock internals with the Full-Race Turbo Kit tuned with hondata. here are some pics of his car... http://www.full-race.com/geoff/
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yeah, but how long is it going to run like that? theres a civic around here with a gsr motor running 8 pounds boost around 400hp on stock internals. However he says hes only got about 10 more runs on the strip before he has to build them up.
8 psi? 400 hp? wheres the bullshit flag... oh wait, here it is 
even a t88 that would never spool on a stock gsr won't put 400 whp to the ground on just 8 pounds.
how does he calculate 10 more runs? that dude is a moron. end of story.
the gsr motor owns the Ls in nearly all aspects except cost. if you can afford it, get he gsr from the get-go.
the 10:1 compression of the gsr is NOT that high. on an fmu, yeah. on hondata, its perfect.
even a t88 that would never spool on a stock gsr won't put 400 whp to the ground on just 8 pounds.
how does he calculate 10 more runs? that dude is a moron. end of story.
the gsr motor owns the Ls in nearly all aspects except cost. if you can afford it, get he gsr from the get-go.
the 10:1 compression of the gsr is NOT that high. on an fmu, yeah. on hondata, its perfect.
tymasterflex
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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Aug 22 2003, 03:52 AM
8 psi? 400 hp? wheres the bullshit flag... oh wait, here it is
even a t88 that would never spool on a stock gsr won't put 400 whp to the ground on just 8 pounds.
how does he calculate 10 more runs? that dude is a moron. end of story.
just what he tells me. he owns a shop around here, and runs his civ hatch at the track all the time. he constantly runs 11s, whatever boost he IS running.