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Iraq = Vietnam???

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by E_SolSi, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    ok i was driving home the other day and listening to NPR as i sometimes tend to do
    i dont think anyone has ever accused NPR of leaning to the "right"
    for that reason i was rather shocked at what i heard

    unfortunately i cant find a printed transcript of the story right now... but its damn good and well worth the listen

    its an audio clip and i think you will need to go to the page to hear it
    NPR : Iraq Is Iraq; Vietnam Was Vietnam

    Edit- direct link to windows media stream:
    NPR's All Things Considered - Friday, January 26, 2007


    ****EDIT****
    ok i still cant find a transcript for this article but i just made one
    so if you cant listen to the story in the link then read this

     
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  2. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    Vietnam= a war against a country (north Vietnam) while fighting an insurgent military and looking over our back to make sure China & the USSR doesn't get involved which tied our hands

    Iraq currently= a war against an insurangcy sponsored by other countries and terrorist organisations (Iran and friends). Iran in this conflict is not nearly as much of a nemesis as China and Russia were in Vietnam and we don't even have to fight "North Iraq". In short the people who fought in Vietnam would kill for the opportunity to fight something as winnable as Iraq...
     
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    The war part in Iraq was won pretty quickly. We're now stabilizing to make friends. We never did, nor did we plan, to stabilize North Vietnam.
     
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    Vietnam war wasn't a war where Americans were against Vietnam, rather it was N. Vietnam vs. S. Vietnam(NV invaded SV), with USA helping the South Vietnamese.
     
  5. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    ok i still cant find a transcript for this article but i just made one
    so if you cant listen to the story in the link then read this

     
  6. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    Hey Sol is that to big to be my sginature?
     
  7. E_SolSi

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    :yes: but feel free to link to it
     
  8. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    Easy: txt it like a 14 year old girl!

    raq is not Vietnam, and here’s why:
    First we had no vital interests in Vietnam. The United States got involved in Vietnam starting in the 1950s, due to an elaborate but misguided theory of dominoes, so if Vietnam went communist the whole of Asia would become communist.

    becomes...
    iraq isnt nam.
    first weve got no beef wit nam. US got into nam in teh 50s cuz of sum chit wit dominos lol if nam goes commie then everywhere goes commie rofl



    See? I compressed it way down. Of course, it was hard putting my brain in stasis while dreaming of new Uggz shoes, a VW convertible (As once described to me, "It's like, the Cadillac of cars!") and turning down my ambient music to hear something from Gwen Stefani to type out that shit.
     
  9. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full

    if I post that then it's something I said

    if I quote NPR then it's opinion from a non right wing source, something I am not lol
     
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  11. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    see now this shit kinda pisses me off
    others post up links to stories from "right" or "left" slanted websites... or ideas / oppinions that are slanted "right" or "left" and the damn thread gets 11ty billion views and goes on for 12 pages...

    i post up a link to a well thought out, well spoken commentary of a "right" leaning theory from a "left" leaning source, on what many people on this board as well as in the media, have been claiming (Iraq = Vietnam)... that explains in very clear language how they are not at all the same... and i even took the time to type up a fucking transcript of the audio for those who couldnt or wouldnt click the link and listen to the story... and not one single fucking person on here that has been claiming that Iraq is unwinable or that Iraq = Vietnam, or any of the other "left" sided arguments about this shit going on in Iraq, has come in here to comment one way or the other

    / :ranting2:

    sometimes i wonder why the fuck i bother
     
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  12. Celerity

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    Dude, I posted up over 200 links that go back to mainstream media reports of WMD, Saddam's threats of attack, UN corruption and Democratic party partisan crap

    Not one link was clicked.

    Get used to it.
     
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    i didn't get a chance to listen to it yet... i actually had to work today :(
     
  14. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    Repost "loose change" that will run on page 1 for a month

    99% of the people onhere know dick about politics and are interested in BS that makes a good action movie story line as opposed to fact and rational thought
     
  15. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    Well its been over 24 hours, and I still dont see anyone trying to refute what was stated in the sound clip and transcript that I posted...
    So I guess the lack of anyone contesting the points made would mean that the link I posted up is indeed correct:
    • The war in Iraq is not the same as the war in Vietnam.
    • Iraq is vital to the US economy and security.
    • The government in Iraq was not "installed by the US".
    • America CAN win in Iraq.
    I would like to thank the "libs" and "lefties" for affirming what we on the "right" have known, and have been trying to get the rest of you to understand for years now.
     
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    Now you know my frustration.

    only I would change that 'can win" to "did win". We won military conflict in a matter of weeks. The rest was cleaning up the stragglers.

    And Carpetbagging this area has been in place for years now. You can be a truck driver, you can move your company there, you can send them employees and the government practically pays for it.

    with this plan in place, Iraq and Afghanistan will be like Japan on the world market within 14 years. The only thing stopping them now is this Islamic "Islam doesn't exist with modernism" bullshit and their OWN addiction to oil.
     
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    when faced with such glaring truth and fact these threads usually fall dead for obvious reasons...

    I'm sorry that MTV doesn't like President Bush
     
  18. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    yep it seems that way
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    the sad fact on capitol hill is the left opposes the war in Iraq because failure there would doom a GOP bid for the white house in 2008. Election has become the sole agenda on capitol hill (as opposed to solving the countires problems), the only person who doesn't need to fight that Demon is the President and THAT is why I trust him.
     
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    MTV = Rock the Vote, founded by Al Gore (In response to Tipper's censorship legislature, "Warning: Explicit Lyrics".

    Rock the Vote is a democratic effort to bring in people who can't vote yet. Get them while they're young.
     
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