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J35 Turbo?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by TheBritishKid, Jan 12, 2008.

  1. TheBritishKid

    TheBritishKid New Member

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    So I'm kinda new to cars. I just got a 93 Accord, and I'm into doing some work on it and makin' it quick. I heard about a Honda V6 that can shut-off half it's cylinders and that sounded awesome to me, 'cause it's like the fuel economy of a four cylinder, but the power of a V6 n shit, so I went and researched it on Wikipedia and it turned about to be a J series motor. You guys probably know all about this, so anyways.
    What would it be like swappin' it into my car? I was thinkin' about a J35 or even a J37...
    What about with a turbo in it too? I would think the compression is already pretty high, too much turbo could easily blow somethin'...
    And does anybody know anythin' about hookin' up a laptop to your ECU?
     
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  2. YBLEGAL

    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    My guess is it would be hard.

    Consider swapping in an H22.

    Laptop to ECU; you've got a few options, but I can only think of AEM E-manage and Hondata at the moment.

    Read through the forums some more.
     
  3. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    It'll be easiest to just turbo your F block- and you can still get pretty insane power from it.
     
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    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    That's gonna be a very difficult and expensive swap. Just getting the motor and tranny mounted is going to be a trick, plus then you've got wiring, ECU, axles, etc.

    I'd just stick with an H or F-series motor. You can make plenty of power on a boosted F22.
     
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    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    F22, 8.8:1 compression, basicly perfect for boost stock.
     
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    I agree with sticking with the f22 motor.
     
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    LS_VTEC you get the BRAKE

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    Put a skyline swap in it YO. :thumbsup:
     
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    that would be insane. but probably a crap load of work too. I don't even wanna know the type of custom work it would take to covert a front wheel drive car to rear wheel.
     
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    This guy I used to be all best friends with him in middle school, his parents bought him some V8 anniversary edition Cobra with a supercharger. We're not really friends anymore he's a fuckin'..dicktard jackass.. and I just can't feel cool unless my car is faster than his. [Yeah.. insert weeping violin music..]
    So I wanna do whatever I can to make my car quicker than his. I like Hondas. I hate the gas guzzling muscle cars..
    I don't know about keepin' my stock F22... It's pretty old it's got 180k miles on it. Maybe I might go hunt around town at salvage yards for motors and see what I can find...
     
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  10. YBLEGAL

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    Well, my buddy with his F22 has high aspirations. He's got well over 100k, idk exactly how much tho. The way he puts it, the more miles it has w/o failure, the stronger the block is first off. Get it sleeved none the less for more boost, but the heating and cooling causes the metal to expand and contract aligning it's bonds and making it stronger (according to him). And it's got good compression already, if you save the money instead of doing a swap, sleeve it w/ new piston rings and bearings and you should be able to stomp the mustang.

    YouTube - Accord built F22 at 10 psi vs. Evo 24 psi race gas
    This video is an F22 accord on 10psi vs an evo on 24psi and race gas

    F22's are good motors. Check out Bisi Moto or CB7tuner.com.

    YouTube - Bisi Ezerioha Bisimoto 9.60 1/4 mile pass
    This video is a naturally aspirated F22. Loooots of work done...
     
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    Yeah, the problem with that V6 swap is that not only is gonna be difficult and expensive to get it installed, the motor itself is probably gonna be expensive too. Instead of spending any money on that idea, I'd look towards re-building and boosting your F22, or swapping for an H22 or H23.

    The H motors are a much easier swap; they'll pretty much bolt right in to your car like the stock motor would.
     
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    I don't know about boosting the stock motor I would replace the pistons and rods altogether and sleeve the cylinders. I may be kind of dreaming here but go with some eagle rods, (if you can find them) and some forged pistons. I would probably suggest replacing the head gasket just in case. and go with arp head studs. after that throw a T3/T4 turbo on there and boost it at like 15 psi. I bet you could just about take him by a couple car lengths. I recently bought an f22b2 motor just so I can build a turbo application motor. I love the compression numbers it comes with.
     
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    A stock F22 is fairly safe to boost on, due to the factory low compression and the cast iron sleeves. If the motor's still in good shape, then it should be fine to boost on. I'd still recommend a head gasket and ARP studs though. That's easy insurance.

    Whether or not he needs to rebuild depends on the current condition of the motor and how much power he hopes to make.
     
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    According to what reasoning? That's metal fatigue, not strengthening...
     
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    even with the fairly high mileage it will be okay? well I would go with Brutal on that one. I have never actually run a boosted motor myself, although I have helped build turboed motors. Either way I would still stick with the f22.

    I also wouldn't call that strengthing. It is fatigue but to me that makes sense to a certain point. I would say a motor that is brand new versus a motor with like up to 20,000 miles on it may actually be stronger only because of the whole metal expanding and aligning the bonds. But I wouldn't say the metal continues to get stronger up til 180,000. I would put money on the fact that right around 50,000 miles is when the motor starts to take a down hill turn.
     
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