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k20 in a cr-z!!!!!!! not crx cr-z

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  1. mikester1222

    mikester1222 New Member

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    alright i was on Honda-Portal Honda Engine Specifications, Honda videos, engines, specs and was looking at the concept car the cr-z!!!! thats right the cr-x is back baby except it is a hybrid!!! i can not wait to get my hands on one of those and stick a k20 in it!!! whats everyones opinion??? i can tell one one thing as soon as those come out i and getting myself a loan and buying one!!!!
     
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    jamesA Well known pissed off telephone guy VIP

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    You want to buy a brand new car just to swap it? I'm not sure if I like that design.
     
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    Z6CRX übber ɐɾuıu etarip

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    Just buy an insight that took a crap on someone.
    That would cost you next to nothing.:D
     
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    well i would not want the hybrid motor in it!! (sorry tree huggers)
     
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    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    That's going to immediately void the warranty. Plus, we don't know what engine the final version will have, as far as know, it's still in the concept stage.
     
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    mikester1222 New Member

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    right now they are saying hybrid ( have we no emagination)
     
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    what I meant was swap out the engine from the insight for a K series. I know its been done before, but a lot more cost effiecent. Plus the CR-Z, may come with something better. You never know, but if you have that much cash laying around. Go for it^_^
     
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    ha actually i dont have that much money i am practicly broke college student!! but they should sirously put like the h22 or something like that in it but you know they wont for safty reasons becuse the car is so small!!
     
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    call me dumb or retarded but what is an insight??
     
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    Shit H22 H2b CRX ;-).
    The engine is never too big for the car.

    As in the Honda Insight. Just look on ebay for them kinda like a reincarnation of the CRX but another fugly hybrid.
     
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    I can dig it.
    It's way better looking than their recent Civic Si....& the Insight? Hurl.

    I still have hope that they'll bring back the 'Rex....
    Dear Soichiro! Don't let them make it a hybrid! And for great honor, put the shifter back on the floor!
     
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    norcalgsr Honda Master Technician

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    :ditto:
     
  14. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    this thread sucks.

    they aren't even going to make this car. it would be a pain in the ass to put an h22 into it. why not just leave it alone and drive it? oh, and if you dont' know what an insight is, you really shouldn't even considering trying to do a swap because you dont' know much about hondas.
     
  15. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    :concur:

    i love how everyone on here bashes the hell out of the insight, even though most have never even sat in one let alone driven one
    the insight was more than capable of putting people to shame as long as you know how to drive
    if you are looking for a drag car... then you are correct its a slow pile of shit (although i did beat several of the ricers around town who thought they were being funny reving on the hybrid at stoplights)
    but if you are looking for a car capable of beating up some back roads and putting a lot of other people in far more capable cares to shame, the insight was great
    the tires were thin as hell and had shitty (soft) sidewalls
    the suspension was ok (nothing to write home about)
    the brakes were ok but overheated somewhat quickly (poor venting from the aerodynamic wheels)
    all of this added up to a car that you had to drive WELL if you wanted to drive it fast
    you had to hit the right line on the corner so you could go through it at as much speed as possible, you had to know exactly how much brakes you needed to get down to the speed that you could take that corner with, you couldnt scrub off too much speed though because it was a pain in the ass trying to get it back, the insight truly was a "velocity car"
    it took a bit of time to learn how to drive that car fast... but if you can drive an insight fast, you can drive just about anything fast...
    i embarrassed a lot of people in that car on back roads and even a few at autocross (not to mention the 5 cops that i outran with it)

    people have no fucking imagination
    everyone talks about swapping K/B/H engines into the insight... why?? its pointless
    turbo the stock engine... theres plenty of people out there who have done it... and it was done cheap... the cars run 14.### 1/4 miles on less than 6lbs of boost... AND STILL GET 55MPG!!!
    or if you just NEED to change the engine, swap in the 4cyl from the civic hybrid... similar power to what the turbo'd ones are putting down but still NA... want more? turbo that


    most of being faster involves improving yourself... but everyone automatically assumes the problem is the car or that the answer is more power... (i guess if you live your life 1/4 mile at a time that might be true... but straight line racing is just SO FUCKING BORING... i would rather hit a hairpin at 60mph with the tires screaming at the edge of adhesion, or an off camber curve at 100mph with the car threatening to skip to the outside at any moment, than cross the 1/4 mile marker at 140mph)
    9 times out of 10 the car is far more capable than the driver
    when the driver does reach the limits of the car, brakes, suspension, and tires will do far more towards making the car faster (with a skilled driver) than more power will... when you have a solid chassis with good brakes suspension and traction, that you are able to drive at its limits, then you should start thinking about more power
    but this is a whole different argument for another thread

    hybrids do suck... but for a completely different reason that has to do with lifespan and cost of repair of the IMA system
    as i posted in the other CR-Z thread
     
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    Agreed. Plus, the Insight even looks good if you remove those ugly rear wheel skirts and replace them with custom fiberglass inserts that match the body lines.

    Someone needs to manufacture those.
     
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    E_SolSi, I love your posts, dude. Although long, almost always informative & capable of ending most arguments.:cool:

    That said:

    Yeah, that sounds like a ~great~ car!

    On the other hand, I do agree w/ you on the corner carving vs. straight line being more fun. You put it very well. I'm also sure that you didn't mean to imply that 1/4 mile racing is easy.

    ^^ x2! I know it drops the drag coeffecient & yada yada yada....but all I see when I look at them is this:
    [​IMG]

    Not sexy.
    [​IMG]
    But then again, they are slippery bastards....

    :::edit:::

    Found this on wiki. I thought I had seen a list of straight drag coefficiency , but couldn't find it again for this post. This is the top ten from the list of coefficient times frontal area. The Insight is a far second behind the EV1...but, hey, look at that! The 'Rex is a pretty close third beating out lambo's & stuff! WERD!:ph34r:

    CdA ft²Automobile model
    3.951996 GM EV1
    5.101999 Honda Insight
    5.711990 Honda CR-X Si
    5.761968 Toyota 2000GT
    5.801986 Toyota MR2
    5.811989 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    5.881990 Nissan 240SX
    5.921994 Porsche 911 Speedster
    5.951990 Mazda RX7
    6.001970 Lamborghini Miura
     
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  18. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    thanks :)

    indeed... but 2 of those issues would have been easy to fix by simply switching to a different rim/tire
    unfortunately no one really makes shit for suspension for them
    oddly enough theres not a lot of people buying insights to drive them the way i did :shrug:

    not necessarily "easy" just boring... drag racing does take a good amount of skill and timing... (but so does every other type of racing)
    and the shittiest part of drag racing is the better and faster you get, the shorter the experience is :(
     
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    humblegumbo 1595cc's of Mad Fury

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    :lol:

    My only defense for 1/4mi, because I do like to watch, is that it's racing distilled. In keeping w/ the alcohol metaphor, some people like a fine wine w/ complex & deep flavors while others like, say, cheap domestic beer (NASCAR) or liquor (drag).

    Knowhatimean?
     
  20. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    nicely put
    thats the first time ive ever heard that

    :thumbsup:
     
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