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Kentucky drug test for welfare? repost?

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  1. reckedracing

    reckedracing TTIWWOP VIP

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    I saw this posted on ethan's facebook so no idea on the truth of it, if this is true i hope every other state or even the feds agree with this
    just make it a simple piss test with a test strip for amp's, thc, coke, crack, etc
    shit, i think they should even piss test for nicotine too
    if you can afford fucking cigarettes at 10+ a pack maybe you should quit so you can buy your fucking baby some formula you stupid cunt

    Kentucky just passed the best law ever. To be on food-stamps, medicaid, or cash assistance for your children or yourself, you have to pass a DRUG test. Now every state should do the same. If you agree re-post!
     
  2. K2e2vin

    K2e2vin Senior Member

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    That's nice to see!
     
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    can't be real. this would be too smart and too much common sense.
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    it's not a law yet. just proposed. it wont pass though, nobody will want to pay for the drug testing. and dont' say "the people on welfare will pay for it", because it wont happen.

    kentucky welfare drug test - Google Search
     
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    You are spot on. But with just about every other political issue it is ass backwards. Instead of paying for the testing the tax payers of Kentucky are paying for the recipients habit if they have one.

    We will shovel millions of dollars into these programs but wont pay for staffing to actually follow up with the beneficiary of these programs to insure they are attempting to get a job or that they are not rocking a Yukon with 22" spinners and 4 12 inch subs in the back to get them panties droppin.
     
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    i'm going to limit the amount of words i put into to this so i don't sound like Hitler.

    but there are a lot of people out there that this country wouldn't miss if they were gone. we don't have to have ethnic cleansing, however, i wouldn't mind sending them "back to the motherland". (not referring to africa. i mean anybody and anywhere).

    i have said this since day one, if you aren't contributing, you're part of the fucking problem. you don't vote, you don't pay taxes, you don't serve your country. you are a burden to the rest of us. you suck the system dry, and for what? you do nothing to contribute to society other than shit out fucking crack babies and welfare families. ugh

    /mini rant
     
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    I was about to say this in my original reply; but the piss testing isn't expensive and would be much cheaper than giving the druggies a welfare check.
     
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    i would rather pay the $15 for the test (bulk rate assumed here) than 300+ a month to a crack head
    15 vs 300, you do the math
     
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    there you go thinking logically again. stop thinking realistically and think "government and crack heads".
     
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    But you have to test everyone so you would have to eliminate 1 crack head for every 20 legit people in order to make this program and testing cost neutral by your math. More than one to actually reduce the cost. Now you have to factor in training for/hiring of the people to administor the test. Retesting the people that claim it is a bad test yadda yadda yadda......I think it could get expensive very quickly unless the tests get cheaper and you take it off the top of the benifits they are getting.....
     
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    it very well MAY pass. Kentucky has been leading the way into 'smarter' politics lately. paul ryan, rand paul, you name it...
     
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    There really isn't much training to the piss test at all. Last two places I worked at you just piss in a cup that has an indicator already on it and they can tell you if you fail or pass in just a couple minutes. When I worked at Con-Agra the test was new for them(I was the first person they used it on) and they simply just read the instructions.

    Also, he said $15 vs. >$300 per month. I don't know how long welfare lasts but assuming it's a year; taking out one crackhead that would have had welfare just saved the government $3600/year. $15 would prevent that(probably cheaper if they buy bulk).
     
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    We can only hope this is true. The fact is the majority of people voting these days receive benefits like welfare... When the majority are takers the givers will never win.
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    I have no problem paying taxes to support unemployment benefits for those who are actually looking for work and are capable of acquiring it. That means that if employers may drug test than the government must as well. You cannot define someone as capable of getting a job unless they are truly capable. There are some jobs which don't care, all of them low paying, and if that is your argument than I would say the benefit should be lowered according to the work you are capable of acquiring.

    For welfare it is largely he same argument. The government simply has a valid interest in the way tax dollars are spent that survives even strict scrutiny. It is a legit interest, it is narrowly tailored, and it is the least restrictive means possible. I am not saying we should never help those addicted to hard drugs, only that it changes the classification. If you are otherwise capable of supporting yourself, but find yourself unable because of drug use, that is not unemployment, nor is it welfare. That is a self imposed temporary disability and must be treated as such. That means rehabilitation is required for support, just like searching for a job is required for unemployment.

    Here is another legal argument: If the recipient is spending their welfare money on felony class drugs, and the government can be reasonably said to know that this is occurring, isn't the government guilty of aiding and abetting felonious action?
     
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    Yes but to find that one crack head you have to test everyone every month. so it is really 15 vs. 315. To cover the cost of testing every one else that month you need to find one crack head for every 20 people still collecting the benifit.
     
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    maybe we should just get rid of welfare :shrug:
     
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    If we got rid of welfare, then the people who were on it would vote for whatever politician promised to bring it back.
     
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    if you got rid of welfare, the whole country would look like detroit in a matter of months.

    everything you have, would be stolen.


    the only group who would benefit from welfare are pawnshop owners.
     
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    so it brings me back to my original point. maybe we should just get rid of some of the people.
     
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