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  1. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    so I've moved into my new house. Cute first home, 1940's wood floors in every room, etc

    my bathroom sink stops up and I figure liquid plumber to the rescue right? No

    liquid plumber didn't budge it, not after hours. So I drained and disassembled the drain assembly into the wall and ran a snake

    the snake would only go in about sixishh feet into the drain. I dunno if it's hitting the wall, or a corner I just can't make but that's as far as I can get the thing. The drain takes a downturn about 3 inches into the wall so 6 feet seems good

    I work the snake, the drain works again

    two hours later it's stopped up

    tried it again, the drain works again, slightly better then the first snake job

    two hours later it's stopped up.

    in between the two snake jobs I ran some liquid pipe snake through it, you know for good measure, it didn't make any difference

    so what's going on with my drain line

    it isn't the master drain, everything else drains perfectly in the house, which means it has to be somewhere in between the sink and where the drains come together

    the bend 3 inches in the wall where the drain line turns down is actually a T fitting, with a pipe going up. I couldn't get the snake up there but I figured out a way to do it while lying in bed. Is that a drain line, and could it be inducing liquid lock in the sink drain if it's clogged?

    Any advice would be great, kthankx
     
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    chestercheeto48 Senior Member VIP

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    The t fitting is most likely your vent stack taking sewer gasses up and out of your house. As for the clog I am not sure - what floor is it on?
     
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    if you have a basement and can get to the plumbing, have the wife jiggle the snake around at the point it stops while you listen and mark the spot where you hear it. hacksaw the pvc, take a look, clean out the blockage. Then a coupler and some pvc cement (one clear can is the cement and the purple stuff, kinda like a primer) and put it all back together
     
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    I am assuming that his waste pipe and vent stacks are cast iron as the house is older. That is unless there was some remodeling done in the recent past. PVC is a fairly new product compaired to the age of the house.
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    no basement, first floor, and yes Iron pipes

    any other ideas?
     
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    what sort of snake are you using?

    bend out the point on the snake for a more aggressive hook

    i've found things like bottle caps in pipes
    you move it with the snake and the drain works, then it gets blocked again, run the snake and it moves again and drains again...
    repeat till you're insane
     
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    roto-rooter?
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    no wai

    cameron used to fix 283 million dollar stealth bombers, he is not calling roto rooter
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    :lmao: aint pride a m0f0
     
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    Are you using a hand snake or a power snake? Also any trees in the back yard? How quickly does it really stop working one use or multiple uses? You can rent a power version from your local rental place. Might be worth a shot. Also did you get a home warrenty with the new house? It may be worth while to make a claim if you can.
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    no tress that would cause a problem

    I'm using a hand snake. I went out into the back yard and the master drain trap is out there next to the house. It's plastic, which suggests at least a partial renovation, one thing I just noticed is that it doesn't have a cap. It looks clear, as a bell. But that doesn't mean something didn't climb in there

    my next two steps

    run the snake up into the houses plumming through the master drain catch

    snake the vent pipe
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    what a piece of shit
    lol

    that would work well with your vent being right off your sink drain
     
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    I don't get the question. You press the seal against the drain and discharge the air. It is the same effect as a plunger on steriods.
     
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    I'm guessing just position the cup over the drain and press down evenly so you get a decent seal all the way around... then discharge the CO2
    should probly fill the pipe and some of the sink with water (better hydraulic force :) )
     
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    Block up the overflow/bypass as well. If you don't it could leak air.
     
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    I don't think it would work well at all. The vent T's directly off the drain. The vent has obviously much less resistance then the clogged drain, ergo it would attract all the pressure at it will follow the least resistance
     
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    They are assuming that the clog is between your sink/tub/shower/toilet and the vent stack/waste pipe. I have seen products like this work for that type of application. Unfortunately for you it seems that your clog is located in the waste pipe.
     
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    Sulfuric acid. Nuff said.

    Just buy the stuff that comes in a bottle in a thick plastic bag with more warnings than instructions.
     
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    Sabz5150 FALCON PUNCH!!!

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    I've fired one of those things. If you have a seal, it will blow the clog to bits. If not, you're getting soaked.
     
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