new car in the Colorado police fleet

[Seany-izzle]

Originally posted by BodyDroppedNikes+Jul 30 2005, 11:50 PM-->

2000Si

@Jul 30 2005, 10:48 PM
That'd be a first for a US police agency... an import car? 

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back where i lived they had a 1st gen Mazda RX-7 for a police car for the DARE program.

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we have a DARE car up here, its the 5.0 model mustang with a huge ass blower our the hood and some fat ass rear tires. that thing hauls, ive seen it fly by me like i was standing still.

 

[posol]

Originally posted by Celerity@Jul 31 2005, 12:41 AM
And I'm sorry, but Crown Vic police package cruisers are faster than WRXs.

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maybe yours.........

 

[jeffie7]

Originally posted by 2000Si@Jul 31 2005, 01:26 AM
and you know this as fact? Something I forgot; I do know some companies will chip the PI CVs ECU for fuel economy and shift points. But most smaller police agencies opt to not have that done to keep costs down.

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Yes but not sure the details on what they do. One thing Im pretty sure about is the suspension.

I should find out. I have enough friends in the biz.

 

[E_SolSi]

generally they do:
beefed up springs (mostly for handling all the added weight in the cars)
tranny cooler
sometimes oil coolers
enhanced coolant systems

the modifications done to them are usually focused on helping the car deal with being used HARD for long hours every day

 

[NissanNiNjA2nd]

thats funny.... an sti.... they run what... mid 13s? heheh.... that shit wont even keep up with the slow people around here....

 

[jamesA]

Originally posted by jeffie7+Jul 31 2005, 02:06 AM-->

2000Si

@Jul 31 2005, 01:26 AM
and you know this as fact? Something I forgot; I do know some companies will chip the PI CVs ECU for fuel economy and shift points. But most smaller police agencies opt to not have that done to keep costs down.

[post=533518]Quoted post[/post]​

Yes but not sure the details on what they do. One thing Im pretty sure about is the suspension.

I should find out. I have enough friends in the biz.

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Now you're back tracking... you were talking about motor work, nothing about suspension and everything E just stated.

 

[kyleirwin]

Originally posted by NissanNiNjA2nd@Jul 31 2005, 02:39 AM
thats funny.... an sti.... they run what... mid 13s? heheh.... that shit wont even keep up with the slow people around here....

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what? where do you think you are homie? this isn't the fi forums of h-t, this is hondaswap. 80% of the people on here drive 16 sec+ cars. maybe 5% actually have swaps. i can't think of anybody off the top of my head that would own a sti, except for maybe b's sti???

 

[kyleirwin]

Originally posted by 2000Si+Jul 31 2005, 03:06 AM-->

Originally posted by jeffie7@Jul 31 2005, 02:06 AM
2000Si

@Jul 31 2005, 01:26 AM
and you know this as fact? Something I forgot; I do know some companies will chip the PI CVs ECU for fuel economy and shift points. But most smaller police agencies opt to not have that done to keep costs down.

[post=533518]Quoted post[/post]​

Yes but not sure the details on what they do. One thing Im pretty sure about is the suspension.

I should find out. I have enough friends in the biz.

[post=533532]Quoted post[/post]​

Now you're back tracking... you were talking about motor work, nothing about suspension and everything E just stated.

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shutup, you're a dumbass.

 

[Celerity]

Originally posted by kylemarhx+Jul 31 2005, 05:38 AM-->

NissanNiNjA2nd

@Jul 31 2005, 02:39 AM
thats funny.... an sti.... they run what... mid 13s? heheh.... that shit wont even keep up with the slow people around here....

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what? where do you think you are homie? this isn't the fi forums of h-t, this is hondaswap. 80% of the people on here drive 16 sec+ cars. maybe 5% actually have swaps. i can't think of anybody off the top of my head that would own a sti, except for maybe b's sti???

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You wouldn't believe how many of us have WRXs, at the least. As for chasing me down rt 25 in Colorado with a WRX - We could do it at 70 mph, that WRX will run out of gas before Colorado Springs.

-> Steve

 

[vtecsir1]

Originally posted by Celerity@Jul 30 2005, 11:41 PM
Basically, they are now participating in street racing - Only they have a badge and are above the law.

And I'm sorry, but Crown Vic police package cruisers are faster than WRXs. But, as I recall in Colorado they aren't used in pursuit - The Helicopter is. In Connecticut we have one state police helicopter, and they actually use the cruisers as pursuit, and they have "special Pursuit" cars here that are tubbed out and de-interiored Camaros with high performance crate motors, roll cages and (at least when the program started) boost. They are nasty cars.

But using a WRX specifically to catch street racers means that they are relying on the headlights and overall appearance to trick people and let their guard down. It's almost entrapment.

-> S

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lmao the crown vic police cruiser was tested by car and driver,15.8 quarter mile is faster than a wrx? lol

 

[NissanNiNjA2nd]

Originally posted by kylemarhx@Jul 31 2005, 05:38 AM
what? where do you think you are homie? this isn't the fi forums of h-t, this is hondaswap. 80% of the people on here drive 16 sec+ cars. maybe 5% actually have swaps. i can't think of anybody off the top of my head that would own a sti, except for maybe b's sti???

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here as in where I live... not here as in Hondaswap....

 

[jeffie7]

Originally posted by 2000Si+Jul 31 2005, 03:06 AM-->

Originally posted by jeffie7@Jul 31 2005, 02:06 AM
2000Si

@Jul 31 2005, 01:26 AM
and you know this as fact? Something I forgot; I do know some companies will chip the PI CVs ECU for fuel economy and shift points. But most smaller police agencies opt to not have that done to keep costs down.

[post=533518]Quoted post[/post]​

Yes but not sure the details on what they do. One thing Im pretty sure about is the suspension.

I should find out. I have enough friends in the biz.

[post=533532]Quoted post[/post]​

Now you're back tracking... you were talking about motor work, nothing about suspension and everything E just stated.

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I don't know what things are modded off hand, that's why I said I can find out next time I see some of my friends. Would you of rather I pulled something out of my ass?

 

[jamesA]

Originally posted by kylemarhx+Jul 31 2005, 05:39 AM-->

shutup, you're a dumbass.

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haha... kyle... just don't even bother. I'm a dumbass, but I'm right. Irony at it's finest.

jeffie7@Jul 31 2005, 11:51 AM
I don't know what things are modded off hand, that's why I said I can find out next time I see some of my friends. Would you of rather I pulled something out of my ass?

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I'm just not going to comment on that.

 

[E_SolSi]

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[E_SolSi]

and heres some performance specs for commonly used police vehicles

Chevrolet Impala (the newer ones that are popping up all over)
0-60 = 9.25
Quarter mile = 17.02 @ 83.20 mph
top speed = 126


Dodge Intrepid (see them once in a while)
0-60 = 9.14
Quarter mile = 16.98 @ 85.05
top speed = 136


Ford Police Interceptor (we all know these)
0-60 = 9.14
Quarter mile = 16.99 @ 84.10
top speed = 128


Chevrolet Camaro (lot of states use these for chase cars)
0-60 = 5.69
Quarter mile = 14.14 @ 102.48
top speed = 159


this is in no way the full list of everything you are up against out there
some of the other cars that i have seen or heard about are:
WS6 trans ams
SRT-4s
WRXs
mustangs
corvettes
a shit load of different SUVs

this does not take into consideration the helicopters or airplanes that might be watching your ass from the sky, or motorcycles (and yes some places are starting to put cops on sport bikes)

the list will vary by area

 

[nismogod]

in flagler county, here in FL, there are turboed dodge intrepids that are more then just turbo. cause my buddy was tellin me was havin a hard time puttin distance between himself(R6) and the officer.

additionally, the old FHP mustangs were re worked. the 5.0 Notch backs.

either way i think it varies from place to place. and i dont think anyone can apply any blanket statement.

 

[NissanNiNjA2nd]

Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jul 31 2005, 01:55 PM
and heres some performance specs for commonly used police vehicles

Chevrolet Impala (the newer ones that are popping up all over)
0-60 = 9.25
Quarter mile = 17.02 @ 83.20 mph
top speed = 126


Dodge Intrepid (see them once in a while)
0-60 = 9.14
Quarter mile = 16.98 @ 85.05
top speed = 136


Ford Police Interceptor (we all know these)
0-60 = 9.14
Quarter mile = 16.99 @ 84.10
top speed = 128


Chevrolet Camaro (lot of states use these for chase cars)
0-60 = 5.69
Quarter mile = 14.14 @ 102.48
top speed = 159

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for a molment there I thought they might actually be able to keep up....

the real threat around here is 300zxtt or the gutted all to hell 5.0

ive seen some pretty funny things though... as a joke some local PD bought and stripped out a Crown vic and then ran it at the track.... 14.50s was the best of the day......

if you can run anything under a 14.50 and have a top speed over 130mph... there is a VERY good chance that they arent going to keep up...

that being said... dont run

 

[civicious]

Originally posted by NissanNiNjA2nd@Jul 31 2005, 03:37 PM
if you can run anything under a 14.50 and have a top speed over 130mph... there is a VERY good chance that they arent going to keep up...

 

[jeffie7]

Originally posted by civicious+Jul 31 2005, 03:59 PM-->

NissanNiNjA2nd

@Jul 31 2005, 03:37 PM
if you can run anything under a 14.50 and have a top speed over 130mph... there is a VERY good chance that they arent going to keep up...

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Anyone who thinks they can "run" from the police in a car is stupid. unless you live in a county with 5 officers on duty at one time. Then you "might" beable to ditch them.

anywhere else you're F-ed.

unless of couse you're on a bike =) =) =)

 

[NissanNiNjA2nd]

Originally posted by jeffie7+Jul 31 2005, 04:48 PM-->

Originally posted by civicious@Jul 31 2005, 03:59 PM
NissanNiNjA2nd

@Jul 31 2005, 03:37 PM
if you can run anything under a 14.50 and have a top speed over 130mph... there is a VERY good chance that they arent going to keep up...

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Anyone who thinks they can "run" from the police in a car is stupid. unless you live in a county with 5 officers on duty at one time. Then you "might" beable to ditch them.

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