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Originally posted by sleepergtx@Nov 16 2003, 01:28 AM
Right now, it's about 7 girls and counting that that's happened with...and 6 of them I don't even talk to anymore. ...well 7 if you count the fact that the other one's boyfriend is a fucknut who's nuts I'd like to cut off and shove down his throat...but anyway..... :ph34r:

:werd:

i hope you know you have no chance with her at all.

read the link i posted on page 1
 
Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Nov 16 2003, 01:19 AM
that's the WHOLE point of this thread. If you becomes friends first- you have effectively made yourself the "nice guy" who finishes last.

B, I really think that most of you need to widen your circle of good friends. Having a good social base is key to an overall satisfying life. And among those people there should be at least a third of them being ones of the opposite sex. Friends love to fix up their single friends, if they are good people. My friends try to match me up occasionally. lol. And there are friends that I do find attractive.

B you are very picky in your tastes in women. It's not so much that women put guys in the friend zone. They just don't find every guy across the board sexually attractive. And you guys may be a little less discriminating, but again, I don't think that you all find 100% of the females out there gf material. That's just the way it is. We are all looking for that special someone to be with. It just takes time, and none of you are like senior citizens yet.


Anyone watch ER the other night? The opening scene is in a bedroom and one of the female doctors is in bed with some guy. She is complaining about her income taxes being so high. He suggests that she needs some dependents, like children for the tax deductibles. She looks shocked. He then says something like that the sex between the two of them is pretty good, and what are the odds that they will find better (mates)? Well I found that funny and sad at the same time. So don't compromise and just be with someone that is only "okay"... I see couples that I feel compromise this way just because it's the easier thing to do and they are just too scared to be single again. :(
 
Originally posted by 98integrals+Nov 16 2003, 01:38 AM-->
sleepergtx
@Nov 16 2003, 01:28 AM
Right now, it's about 7 girls and counting that that's happened with...and 6 of them I don't even talk to anymore. ...well 7 if you count the fact that the other one's boyfriend is a fucknut who's nuts I'd like to cut off and shove down his throat...but anyway..... :ph34r:

:werd:

i hope you know you have no chance with her at all.

read the link i posted on page 1

I'm fairly sure I do. If I asked her to marry me tomorrow, she would. ;)
 
This last girl I was interested in Annie, acted as if she was interested so we started talking on the phone and during school, well just last Tuesday she tells me we should just be friends (and says, at school, as to suggest my not calling her anymore, pretty much she told me to fuck off)... so I said I thought we were [just] friend? I guess we weren't friends addn still aren't, and never could be for that matter. Oh ok! Well last night I hung out with my ex-whom still loves me, and I love her very much so still, and probably will for as long as I think I know what love is, but her parents would never allow us to see eachother, so what am I to do? Who knows? Well actually I know what I'll do, nothing at all, I'm leaving for basic in December, and dont/wont have time to worry about a stupid & pointless adolecent (sp?)relationship! Im Out!

:cliffs:
Girl Acted interested, so I did the same
She told me top buzz off
So I did
Hung out with ex fell back in-love wither
Realized there is no hope in that relationship
Moved on!
 
Making "more of a female social base" and "Be more of a friend to people" will not do any thing but make you a bitch. Like the black dude on Designing Women.

And this "Daytime, no alcohol" kick is total fluff. Whether you meet someone at a bar or at a supermarket no difference.

Keys to survival single are the same as engaged.
Be a man. Not a violent man, but stop worrying about what people think. Just do your best to be a man. open doors, listen to what people have to say, and if someone butts in on your date, kick their ass into the pavement.

Don't change for broads. I had this little gem occur to me tonight. I found this girl last night, blonde and big-in-the-butt. She met me, then she walked away . I knew off the bat she didn't want anything to do with me. She suggested to Airjockie that I "Get a haircut and shave". Fuck her. How about I suggest she lose the blubber and that f*ckin ugly tattoo? Yeah ! hurts, don't it biatch.

Overall, if a women isn't interested in you for you, And has some sort of condition kick them to the curb. They aren't worth the time wasted - even if you DO get laid.

-> Steve

Toilet women. Feh.
 
Originally posted by Celerity@Nov 16 2003, 04:18 AM
Making "more of a female social base" and "Be more of a friend to people" will not do any thing but make you a bitch. Like the black dude on Designing Women.

OMFG!!! I just laughed so fucking loud!!!!!!!!!!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHA

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Originally posted by 94RedSiGal@Nov 16 2003, 01:41 AM
B, I really think that most of you need to widen your circle of good friends. Having a good social base is key to an overall satisfying life.

I have plenty of friends... i don't see where this coming from at all. Honeslty, I probably have more than you. my "close" crowd pushes at least 30, and i currently have 132 entries in my cell phone... people i talk to at least once in a while and are worth being in my phone.

And among those people there should be at least a third of them being ones of the opposite sex.


Girls for the most part are tedious and annoying. It's hard to be friends with girls when most the time, they are thinking the other way- either out to use the guy for status, or wants the guy. In case you haven't realized it yet, you're different from most girls Martine. lol not in a bad way... just most girls don't think they way you do. you're level-headed for the most part, and frankly, if you never posted your name, your sex, or didn't have "gal" in your s/n, or eluded to anything of the sort, i'd have a hard time picking you out from just another guy member. And that's a good thing... but again, most girls aren't like you.

friends love to fix up their single friends, if they are good people.


been there... done that... and it's never gone anywhere. most the time, it was What the fuck did i get myself into shit. i'm all set.

B you are very picky in your tastes in women.

damn straight.

Go rent the 1992 movie, "Singles". one of the opening lines- "Never settle".

I'm a firm beleiver in that. If theres somthing more that you want than a chick isn't giving you from the start, HOW is it ever going to work out? from that day forward, i will be tempted by others, and either break up, cheat or whatever just to fulfil that. why? why be with something that you aren't 100% happy with?
So, I get something that catches my eye, and go from there. if she's got a decent head on her shoudlers too, that's a hell of a plus, and frankly, the deciding factor if i stay with her or not. but #1, if she doesn't look good to me, i will never be happy with her. i'm sorry, but that's the way i am. Someday when i meet a girl, shes going to sweep me off my feet both mentally and physically to the point where no other woman including porn will ever look remmotely intriguing to me. until that day, the quest continues.

be that as it may, im thoroughly happy with what i have now. Even though our relationship has been rough getting going, and doesn't really show any signs of letting up, Lora has my eye, and slowly, the mental stuff is starting to take place. Is she the one? who knows. its way to early to say that.... lots of things happen, and people change- and frankly, so do tastes, and so do boredoms. what starts out being "cute" eventually annoys the shit out of you. its then time to move on.

It's not so much that women put guys in the friend zone. They just don't find every guy across the board sexually attractive.
duely noted.... but at the same time, they tend to lead guys on because they love the attention.

And you guys may be a little less discriminating, but again, I don't think that you all find 100% of the females out there gf material.

100%? try 2% at best! lol but again, i'm picky.
if shes hot but can't read, shes getting the boot
if shes ugly but can read 12 languages, shes getting the boot
if shes average looking and has an average intelect... chances are, shes not for me...
but if she has a little kick of style, a look in her eye that draws me in, and words that come out of her mouth aren't "ain't got none y0!", then there's a good chance I could be happy with her. as LITTLE as this sounds, at least to me, I have found it nearly impossible to find a girl like this.

bar sluts- are just that- bar sluts. even the quiet ones.... if you're at a bar looking to meet people, i think its a waste of time. I've always been a fan of "The Laundramat Concept" :) You both have at least a half hour to an hour to blow... sitting reading some lame ass magazine- or, you could enjoy some conversation. it's almost forced- but at the same time, a sigh of relief.

Now, if only i didn't do my laundry at home, I might be able to act on this concept someday :)

That's just the way it is. We are all looking for that special someone to be with. It just takes time, and none of you are like senior citizens yet.


yes, it's time... but at the same time, i want to be with a girl at least 3 years before i get married. if it takes me 10 more to find the right one, im going to be 40 by the time im looking to get married... and thats why too long off. frankly, i think if im not engagued of with a girl long term by the time i'm 30, im simply going to give up, or try to pimp some 18 yr olds... cuz all the ones my age, will simply be the left overs that no one else has wanted for the past 12 years.

So don't compromise and just be with someone that is only "okay"... I see couples that I feel compromise this way just because it's the easier thing to do and they are just too scared to be single again. :(

now you understand- never settle.
 
Oh where to begin? It's too early in the morning to use the quote feature and address all of your points.

1. Age. A bunch of you are 19 in this thread. So for you guys, the girls in your age group are just that. Girls, not mature women. Our bodies mature sooner than the rest of us. I've also read that mayb due to the hormones in our beef, girls are menstrating earlier and earlier. I don't know if you guys are also affected in the same way. So anyway, if you've been hunting for a gf for the last 3 years, while it may seem like forever, well it's not.

2. What does having a gf mean to you? I think it's probably a combination of several things. Sexual satisfaction, validation among your peers that you can get one and someone who loves you and treats you special. Otherwise, you guys are way too young to meet the right girl and to get married. You really don't want to settle down too early and have kids. You're kids yourselves still.

3. Finding the right woman and avoiding the attention whores. Well from reading a funny convo over at ClubSi between quicksi and Airjockey, you guys are too much about the "hawtness" of a girl. Points are scored approaching a hot babe, a plain one probably gets no points, as no one talks about them. You guys feed the cycle of the creation of the shallow self-centered babes. Haven't you all seen the extreme makeover shows? Any female with effort, can be hot. They spend hours at the mall looking for the right clothes and makeup. They giggle thinking it's more feminine and appealing to you. These are precious hours that they could be spending on other interests. So that is why you all shouldn't pay so much attention to the girls with the bleached blonde hair and their low rider jeans. Find someone with substance. That is why I recommended college campuses for your search. Check out the girls taking the science classes.

I wouldn't expect any of you to date anyone that was actually ugly, but sometimes a plain jane type has more potential as good gf material. Remember also that looks fade with time. So at 20, almost any girl can look good. Check out the rest of her family. See what her mom and her aunts look like.

4. Love vs infatuation. Don't confuse infatuation with a pretty girl with real love. Think with your brain, not your cocks.

5. Uncomfortable meeting girls? I highly recommend getting a job as a waiter, even for just a few weeks. I've had several waitressing jobs. The money's good and it helped my people skills immensely. Plus it builds character. lol.


B: Good luck with Lora. But if she were 30 pounds heavier, I guess that she wouldn't have appealed to you? 30 friends? Well that's a start and they should be of all ages too. It just helps with having a good perpective on life.



That's enough out of me for now. Going back to sleep. *yawn*
 
Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Nov 16 2003, 01:19 AM
that's the WHOLE point of this thread. If you becomes friends first- you have effectively made yourself the "nice guy" who finishes last.

:concur:

Smonkeyboy: You look fine to me. The chin piercing could go though. Remember that girls of your age (18 and under) are mostly a silly immature sort. I've seen then roaming in packs in the malls, giggling for no reason at all. They choose stupid role models like Britney Spears. So have patience.


i agree with the immature thing, but you really dont like my chin stud???
you would be teh first girl that hasnt said it looks good.
 
As far as your style - Remain who you are. I don't care if you wanna tattoo every inch of your body - No one should have a bearing on your decision. When people are giving you the "You'd be perfect if only you...." That's conditional "love". And that sucks.

Don't give conditional love, and don't take it.



That whole "Thinking with your head and not with your cocks" thing is a silly female catch phrase. Penis' have no brain, you can't think with them. The saying is cute, but it has no place in a level-headed conversation. When you're interested in the way a girl looks, then it's just that. I like girls with streaked colors in their hair. It's just a thing that signifies her style. When it comes to fit women, it only tells me that they are active enough to keep some pounds off. I would say of all the fatties I've known and dated, the problem had nothing to do with "Glands" or "metabolism"... It all comes down to how much time they spend sitting on their asses, slackjawed and slovenly. A fit woman to me means she is one of those people that does things. And that's hot. It's not that thinner people are happier people, but happier people are more often than not, thinner people.

All of someone's physical attributes CAN be traced back to some important psychological thing. From their taste in clothes to the way they grow their nails. Lets go over some examples:

Exposed midriff shirts: Yeah, cute every-so-often. But does EVERYTHING have to show off the belly button? This stinks of low-esteem and she feels the need to show skin to attract people. (Hey! Look at ME!)

Thongs: These things are gross. And it seems to go hand-in-hand with wearing the high shirts so that they can show off the thongs. Yay. I know that Thongs were originally meant to hide a panty line, but funny how "Brief lines" never came into question. Wear pants that are just a smidge looser. Jesus.

Low cut shit pants: Raise the shirt, lower the belt line. You ever see how low that shit goes? Ewww... It's like they have Willie Nelson in a leg-lock.

Tattoos. UUUGGGHHHH fucking tattoos. I'll talk and admire people with them - But I hate tattoos with the passion. It's ugly art that I wouldn't hang on my garage wall. I've been over this, I obviously differ from most people on this, I won't go into it. The only problem I have is how COMFORMIST it is in women. They all have the standard issue: Something silly in the small of the back, some sort of flower on the ankle, or some shit on their shoulder blade. It's Boring, and so are they.

No tone. Women that are fit are great, but that also means some muscle tone. I've seen women that can't push the coin slot in on the pool table. That's just sad. Who wants to be around that ? Does she need someone to open doors for her out of necessity?

I have some odd observations too, wanna hear them? Of course you do. You don't have to agree, it's just something that I've noticed.

Druggies have flat bangs. It's like the front of their heads are lifeless. If I see a girl with nice hair, and flat bangs she always comes along with some sort of heavy addiction.
Pierced tongues. She'll tell you all sorts of things about her sexual prowess. Pierced tongues always mean that they have no clue how to have really good sex. (OO! Look at ME!)
Look at their friends. She is one of them. Think about it. If she hangs with assholes, chances are she's one too. Why waste your time trying to prove me wrong :)

Then there are all sorts of things to consider... From cars to the town in which they live. It's all important stuff. I won't even TALK to a girl that idolizes europe. But I'm strange.

-> Steve
 
That whole "Thinking with your head and not with your cocks" thing is a silly female catch phrase. Penis' have no brain, you can't think with them. The saying is cute, but it has no place in a level-headed conversation.


i disagree, while they do have no brains, they do have a tendency to take over a lot of thoughts in your brain

I would say of all the fatties I've known and dated, the problem had nothing to do with "Glands" or "metabolism"... It all comes down to how much time they spend sitting on their asses, slackjawed and slovenly.


:werd:

Thongs: These things are gross. And it seems to go hand-in-hand with wearing the high shirts so that they can show off the thongs. Yay. I know that Thongs were originally meant to hide a panty line, but funny how "Brief lines" never came into question. Wear pants that are just a smidge looser. Jesus.


i disagree again, thongs are hot, 1. they make girls more confident about themselves. 2. They are hott. 3. they are hott

Low cut shit pants: Raise the shirt, lower the belt line. You ever see how low that shit goes? Ewww... It's like they have Willie Nelson in a leg-lock.


disagree again, on certain occations, some girls that have the stomach should show it off.
 
You may think along the goals of getting laid. This is a human thing, not a man thing. Women enjoy sex everybit as much as men. To use this kind of phrase is to unbalance the argument - Making it "seem" that women do us such a favor by providing a vagina. This kind of thinking goes a long way to making men regard themselves as little more than stimuli-responsive animals.

Stop the insanity. Stated simply, When you use weird little wordings like this, it has an adverse affect on the way you think. Men looking for sex are nothing more, nothing less than "men looking for sex". To berate us into "Thinking with your cock" is not as insulting as it is mentally debilitating.


Don't play into it.


I fail to see how exposed underwear makes someone more confident. To me, it's like asking for a wedgie before a job interview. You can see the folly here.

"Some girls have the stomach and should show it off"

Wow. What kind of choices and intrapersonal relations does one need to make to reach this level of understanding for the human condition? To assume that anyone "Should" show it off because they "have it" to show off is ... Well, Wow.. You have me at a loss of words.

-> Steve

Allow me to retreat to the corner of the room, fetal-position with my thesaurus, headphones and a tape of Henry Rollins spoken word albums.
 
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