No Country For Old Men

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And if the movie was so in depth, why use the rivot gun (or whatever it was) instead of an ordinary gun.

It's called a captive bolt pistol. It's actually used for stunning live stock before slaughter.

But why are you getting hung up on that? It's weird, and cool. It's stuff like that that makes the story unique and more memorable. What if he just walked around with a regular gun and killed people? Then he'd just be every other movie psycho killer reinvented yet again...

If I remember correctly, he also had a silenced shotgun? Freakin' sweet...
 
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We watched No Country and really didn't get it either. We were trying to figure out what the point of the movie was I guess.

If you were watching it as a standard crime thriller, then you really won't see a point to it, and you'll probably be extremely disappointed with the ending.

The point of the story (in my opinion) is that life can be unpredictable, unfair, and downright cruel. Moss is a down-on-his-luck average guy that thinks he's hit the jackpot when he finds that money, yet it ends up bringing extreme hardship to him, and ultimately his death. In contrast to that, Chigurh is a monster that goes around arbitrarily killing people based on coin tosses, yet he ends up with the money, and even despite the car accident (another unpredictable twist), he's given every opportunity to make a clean getaway, which he does.

It's even reflected in the way people treat them both. Moss is supposed to be a good guy, and yet he has to bribe that college kid with $500 to give him the jacket and beer when he was bloody, bruised, and clearly in need of help. In contrast, when Chigurh gets into the accident, the two kids that witness the wreck are extremely concerned for his well-being and offer to give him a shirt for free, even though he insists on paying.

Everything that shouldn't happen does. No one gets their just rewards.

And that's what so disturbs Tommy Lee Jones's character. He sees that brutality and injustice and realizes that he's a relic from another time, and that he can't deal with this new, twisted world.

That's my 2 cents on it. I thought it was pretty damn good...
 
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But the ending did suck.

Well, like I said, that depends on how you're watching it.

If you're watching it and expecting it to be a typical crime thriller, catch the crazy killer type of story, then yes, the ending is completely unsatisfactory. It's anti-climactic. One hero dies, the other one gives up. The bad guy walks away. No big slow-motion shoot out or intense fight to the death.

If you're watching it as the story of how an old man is coming to the realization that the world is a much different place then he remembers it, and an exploration of the fact that fate can sometimes be a cruel and unusual thing, then the ending works perfectly.

Just go see Iron Man. Kick ass action flick with a climactic satisfactory ending! ^_^
 
If you were watching it as a standard crime thriller, then you really won't see a point to it, and you'll probably be extremely disappointed with the ending.

The point of the story (in my opinion) is that life can be unpredictable, unfair, and downright cruel. Moss is a down-on-his-luck average guy that thinks he's hit the jackpot when he finds that money, yet it ends up bringing extreme hardship to him, and ultimately his death. In contrast to that, Chigurh is a monster that goes around arbitrarily killing people based on coin tosses, yet he ends up with the money, and even despite the car accident (another unpredictable twist), he's given every opportunity to make a clean getaway, which he does.

It's even reflected in the way people treat them both. Moss is supposed to be a good guy, and yet he has to bribe that college kid with $500 to give him the jacket and beer when he was bloody, bruised, and clearly in need of help. In contrast, when Chigurh gets into the accident, the two kids that witness the wreck are extremely concerned for his well-being and offer to give him a shirt for free, even though he insists on paying.

Everything that shouldn't happen does. No one gets their just rewards.

And that's what so disturbs Tommy Lee Jones's character. He sees that brutality and injustice and realizes that he's a relic from another time, and that he can't deal with this new, twisted world.

That's my 2 cents on it. I thought it was pretty damn good...
with this being said, it makes me hate the movie more and more.

i often compare my life to this. shit on, shit on, shit on. and when does something good ever happen? hmmmm...oh wait, thats never.

just for example, i get my appendix out, get my car hit by a drunk driver while parked, and break a bone in my foot just playing softball. I don't deserve this. i pay my taxes. i served my country.

marsha on the other hand, gets random ass money coming in. just the other day she got a check for $3500 from a company she worked for 4 years ago. some stock plan they had she didn't know about. she also got a check for $5000 from wamu for backpay that she wasn't expecting.

i just feel like some people are born lucky and some are born with shit. i just happened to be dealt the shitty hand.

/rant.
 
i also liked there will be blood. but again, the ending didnt really sit right with me.

*SPOILER*

i dont know why he killed elijah at the end. he had already humiliated him and basically aserted himself as being better in everyway possible. he should have just made him leave feeling like shit. and ended the movie on another scene, like the scene where his son left would have been more fitting IMO (although not chronologically correct). but again i still liked the movie.

I agree on there will be blood. I don't know why he killed elijah, after he made him renounce his faith. I didn't get it. But I do feel that it was necessary for him to die. It was the coming for his outlandish claims for being a profit and for the ridicule he incurred on his followers and his father for them trying to produce an asset on their property.

I think it was just the culmination of his decent into madness. He'd lost everything including his son, and Elijah, who in his mind was the cause of all his problems, was right there. Even he didn't think he'd actually do it, it was a spur of the moment thing after he accidentally knocked him out. In the state he was in, it just seemed like the right thing to do.


Oh yeah:

"I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!"

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i wouldn't call that luck.... i'd call that stupid for not knowing where your money is/was.
it's just an example of how some people get stuff and is arguably deserving of it.

I guess you could compare it to having rich parents, or finding a winning lotto ticket. some people are just winners. i feel that i myself, am just a loser.

i call myself the cooler. i can't enter a casino without everybody there feeling my negative vibe and wanting to kick me out. ^_^
 
If you were watching it as a standard crime thriller, then you really won't see a point to it, and you'll probably be extremely disappointed with the ending.

The point of the story (in my opinion) is that life can be unpredictable, unfair, and downright cruel. Moss is a down-on-his-luck average guy that thinks he's hit the jackpot when he finds that money, yet it ends up bringing extreme hardship to him, and ultimately his death. In contrast to that, Chigurh is a monster that goes around arbitrarily killing people based on coin tosses, yet he ends up with the money, and even despite the car accident (another unpredictable twist), he's given every opportunity to make a clean getaway, which he does.

It's even reflected in the way people treat them both. Moss is supposed to be a good guy, and yet he has to bribe that college kid with $500 to give him the jacket and beer when he was bloody, bruised, and clearly in need of help. In contrast, when Chigurh gets into the accident, the two kids that witness the wreck are extremely concerned for his well-being and offer to give him a shirt for free, even though he insists on paying.

Everything that shouldn't happen does. No one gets their just rewards.

And that's what so disturbs Tommy Lee Jones's character. He sees that brutality and injustice and realizes that he's a relic from another time, and that he can't deal with this new, twisted world.

That's my 2 cents on it. I thought it was pretty damn good...

That puts the movie in a better perspective, because its an idea that I can relate with but I just felt the execution was lackluster because you really had to struggle to pull this conclusion from the movie.

I didn't look back at the movie and say, "Oh, they wouldn't give Moss the coat when he needed help, but Chigurh was helped after his car accident." What I saw from those two scenes were that Moss was down on his luck, the college kids saw him bloodied up and were initially scared and then eventually took advantage of the situation by charging him for the clothes (very American-esque and entrepreneurial, btw). I viewed the Chigurh accident as "what comes around, goes around" and some bad luck. From what I could tell the kids weren't helping him very much, they were afraid, but initially they were going to call the police which would not have benefited Chigurh.

It didn't occur to me that things just fell into place for Chigurh but rather that he persuaded the young kids in a way in which he benefited.
 
it's just an example of how some people get stuff and is arguably deserving of it.

I guess you could compare it to having rich parents, or finding a winning lotto ticket. some people are just winners. i feel that i myself, am just a loser.

i call myself the cooler. i can't enter a casino without everybody there feeling my negative vibe and wanting to kick me out. ^_^

Nick, if you carry the brunt of this attitude on your shoulders, its no wonder you're so down on your luck.

Something, something... Luck helps those who help themselves.
 
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