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  1. Briansol

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    I agree from the start he was the correct choice. This is kinda off subject but still is about Ron. Did anyone see his part in Bruno? I thought he did well holding himself together.
     
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    Is any Obamacare supporter capable of answering how the fuck we are going to pay for all of this? I mean Ron Paul lead off with the cost, the other two blowhards just talked about all the dying children and how it is our moral obligation to support those, some of whom choose not to, support themselves.

    And how can someone say with a straight face that this will force companies to be competitive when the people forcing it on everyone and providing an 'option' owns the freaking printing press. They are also the ones that control the tax code and the courts. How do you fight that giant?

    And you know for that matter, when Bush was in office the VA was a ramshackle department that was killing veterans. But now they cite the VA as an example of how solid government funded health care is?
     
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    Obamacare supporters are in favor of the overhaul because their earnings are so low that the mainstay of healthcare pmt's wont come from them. . .
     
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    Obamacare supporters are in favor of the overhaul for the same reason they were in favor of Obama...

    its "Change"...

    this is the same "who gives a shit what its going to change to, anything is better than what it currently is" mentality that got that mother fucker elected in the first place
    no one cares what it is going to "Change" to
    no one cares that it is going to cost TRILLIONS more than predicted
    no one cares that it is going to bankrupt the country
    no one cares that the quality of service and care will go down
    its "Change"


    these are the same mother fuckers you could slap a "New and Improved" label on a box of any damn thing and they would gladly pay more for it, than the identical product sitting right next to it in the same box without the label... because its "Change"
     
  6. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    Individual responsibility is on life support. "I screwed up my life, someone better save me because I deserve it".

    I hope the Mayan Calendar is right. Sucks that I'd have to go, but at least I know all these blow hards are coming with me.
     
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    there is a lot to be said about individual responsibility.

    For instance i watch people go out and buy a new sound system for their car that their three payments behind on.

    Im behind on the s2k right now, but since i fell behind we've been on the pizza (frozen) kool-aid and ramen diet. I don't care how much you enjoy having an opulent life style. get you're shit together and catch up on your priorities and stop bitching about how little cash you have. He'll im considering quitting smoking to put $250 a month back in my bank account so i can be caught up at the end of the month rather than the end of october like planned.

    There are so many services out there that can help you help yourself there is no reason for a fucking government hand out. Hell i starting importing my debit card transactions into a financial planner and i suddenly had an extra $500 a month that i didn't know existed just because i finally knew where my money was going. I didnt need to declare bankruptcy. I didn't need a bail out. Just needed to know the answer to that question 'where the fuck is my money'. Tom Thumb has it in the $1,000 a month i spent on groceries. Down to $500 a month on groceries and look at that....the money i though i was supposed to have came back after i stopped buying beer and wine. Stopped buying shit that just sat around and did nothing for me. I'd probably save another 20 bucks if i got a hair cut (on shampoo).

    I'll tell you right now, I voted for Obama. Not for all the economic handouts but because of the government grants towards new technologies. He's the only (major party backed) presidential candidate outside of Bill Richardson that backed funding over 50 million a year to new energy technologies. And I think i speak for everyone when i say bill richardson was shit when he was in washington and i dont want him back for more.
     
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    I didn't mean to say everyone who is in a tight money situation is no longer individually responsible. But from what you said, there is a huge difference between you and and the majority.

    First, you felt a need to pay your bills. Then when money was tight, you used a fianancial planner to find where you were overspending.

    Second, you used the word plan in your explination of how you're going to get even. Most people don't have one. That's generally why they ended up in the situation to begin with. They just think "things will pick up" and they'll be fine. I know a girl who use to serve part-time and go to school. Bought a brand new Altima. Couldn't make the payments. Stopped going to school in order to pick up more shifts. Now she is pretty much stuck at that job until the car is paid for. Severe lack of planning.

    Third, you cut certain ammenities to save money. I know people who are behind on bills who still go out to the bar every weekend. They don't even have to stop drinking to save money. Buy a 30, invite your bar friends over, and you will save money.
     
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    Ron Paul tells the truth, but hes an old geezer. Gobama liez, but he's the reality show, movie star, celebrity president the under 30 crowd respects more than their father...

    Thats why hes the prez :p
     
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    I'm under 30 and could give a fuck how old a politician is. Do you do your job? Cool, you have my vote. Doesn't matter if your 25 or 85. (and I do realize a 25 year old can't run, but I'm just saying).
     
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    The under 30 crowd overwhelmingly embraced obama last november.


    Clearly you are a minority in your [our?] age group.
     
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    Most of my friends call him NoBama. And not just my white friends either. Of course, most of them are college educated and business oriented. We want our money and don't want to give it to people who had the same opportunities as us and only screwed themselves.
     
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    You know what shocks the shit out of me in regards to business orientated people. So many people in the Tech industry are all about Obama. How the fuck can you run a small business and still support Obama? It amazes the hell out me.
     
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    They believed the gobama bs during his campaign about how he "said" he would invest in their industry.
     
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    Give him time! He's only been in office long enough for the fucktards who banged to celebrate his innauguration to now have their illegitimate child!!! Better pass that Obamacare motion now. Who else is going to pay for their mistake? Surely you cant morally let it be them!
     
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    Not all busines people

    I'm up at the autozone yesterday talking to Larry that used to manage the Gran Prix lube and he tells me about the bigshot HVAC owner here who comes in with his vehicle for service and Larry says you should get a new air filter, and the fucker says yelling " My car doesn't have an air filter !"
    I suppose he thought his car only breathes clean air ? Yep, mr big bad business owner employer is so goddamned dumb, he thought his car didn't have an air filter.
    Obama voter...
    See, someone else will do all the work, while the arrogant nose in the air jackass will glide around snipping and yipping about others who aren't as good as they are - the "know it all" lying holes like Obama and his libtard "educated" minions of communist reach in everyone's pockets and TAKE IT ALL to "do good" in the world while becoming multi-millionaires (like Jamie Gorelick of Fannie Mae -30 million $ tax funded parachute for destroying the economy and enabling 911 terrorists, 911 commission democrat THE WALL creator/ attourney general assist under RENO ).
    Look, the fuckin libs think the world is going to burn up from heat and flood out, and they're the asses who stopped nuclear power zero carbon emission, etc.
    They're just ASSES - I've never seen so many blatant lies in all my life - right in our faces - yeah sure libtards national healthcare will cost zero and the government won't charge a dime - HOW GODDAMNED STUPID ARE YOU FUCKING LIBTARDS AND YOUR MASTER JACKASS !???!
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    Ok, yeah I agree.
     
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    It's amazing how many people there are that voted for obama, but disagree with what he's actually doing in office. One of my coworkers is like this, and he said he voted for Obama because he seemed fresh and more exciting. I think this points to the media having the more power than anybody in this country. When you look at who the media is comprised of, it scares the hell out of me.
     
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    Yeah, ain't that the truth. But now I WANT MY MILLION DOLLAR GOLDEN PARACHUTE from the government - since the DEMOCRATS gave the trillions to the Big Business, Bankers and Wall Street - now there's whispers of 100's of billions in "corruption" payouts "missing" and "misappropriated".
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    The demtards told me all my life "evil rich republicans schmooze business and wall street" and are greedy zealouts...
    But guess what I finally figured out ?
    It's REALLY guess who ? !???
    DEMOCRATS!
    The reason is since 1935 their New Deal and GReat Soceity programs have CO-OPTED all business and commerce in the USA with regfulations and lobbyists and government meddling - so for DECADES the democrats were meeting and schmoozing with their representatives in the private sectors they were controlling and manipulating and taxing - so OVER THAT TIME PERIOD the demolib jackassed idiots got all the power positions and playa inroads...
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    THAT'S WHY THESE DEMOLIB COMMIES HANDED TRILLIONS TO WALL STREET WITHOUT BATTING AN EYE ! IT'S ALL THEIRS ANYWAY, FRIENDS AND FAMILY - AND THE MEDIA JUST PRETENDS OTHERWISE SINCE THE DEMS ALSO CONTROL THE GHETTOES AND INNER CITIES !
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    What's left for the "evil republicans" is the smaller outlying counties and tiny cities and small towns and villages and if you look at the famous COUNTY MAP you see that's where republicans have a +50% majority while the dems have the Big City +50% majority where corruption and gov programs for the "disenfranchised" ghettoes and business deals and financing and permissions to do things and zoning laws and all the rest the government gets in on and in our faces over is CONTROLLED, taxed, dealt over, con jobbed, legislated, and regulated.
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    So the JIG IS UP for democrats as far as I'm concerned - even though the lies are now especially fervent, outlandish, out of control, unbelievable, and transparent.
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    I'd love to see the Democrats say: " We're sorry we handed over from Congress and our Holy One President trillions and trillions and trillions of your yet to be collected from your grandchildren tax dollars to banksters and wall street and foreign banks and offshore entities -WE'RE WORSE THAN WE EVER CLAIMED THE NEOCONS WERE!"

    Good golly, they'ed actually be telling the truth for once.

    But, instead, I'm certain I'll be told for decades more, the democrats are loving, peaceful angels who care for the outcast and downtrodden and babies. (except when abortion murderes more babies than any Iraq War did, in just few weeks, every goddamned month of every year).
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    PS- Ron Paul is a great man because he tells the truth. Like commie red Independent Bernie Sanders (left as can be but he's not a liar) and I liked Duncan Hunter who put the wall up on the southern California border 87 miles long when everyone else in government whined they couldn't do anything...
    If they tell the truth they're OK with me no matter what party. Just come out and say healthcare is going to cost TRILLIONS and will of course be restricted and doled out in death panels to save expenses, stop being such goddamned lying weasels !

    And where's my MULTI MILLION dollar parachute ? HUH ? WTF is it !!??!!
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    And help me out ! I need help ! Help me!!! Wahhh.... where's my free new car from Oliar ?
    http://hondaswap.com/civic-crx-ef/1990-d15b2-cuts-out-while-running-anytime-376742/#post1435157
    The Ogovernment will send you the check in the mail after your excellent advice works....probably $4,500.00 or so because of my Earth saving mpg friendly Civic.
     
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