Opera is now ad-free, for free

[posol]

if you hate ie, but don't like firefox, now there's another choice for you.

http://opera.com/download/

opera still has some quirks, but its WAYFUCKINGBETTER than ie could ever possibly dream of being in version 231232132.4

 

[Citizen_Insane]

its STILL free?!? Wow, I thought that was just for their anniversary thing.

 

[posol]

they just went to really free from now on. i guess the promotion paid off... or omething

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Sep 20 2005, 10:38 AM
they just went to really free from now on. i guess the promotion paid off... or omething

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Any +'s of opera over firefawks?

 

[posol]

some people like it...

i still like firefox better, but if it was between ie and opera, it wouldn't even be a decision

 

[TurboMirage]

its personal preference at this point, mozilla/opera.

i used opera before i found firefox, and i just like the interface of firefox better.

 

[phunky.buddha]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Firefox still > Opera

But Opera is still a badass third party attempt at a browser. I'm just waiting for Google's version.

 

[Cashizslick]

Just downloaded a new Firefawks skin . . . not willing to part with this browzer just yet after viewing the opera screen shots.

 

[Seany-izzle]

sooo wtf is wrong with ie? i ask then get retarded answers that make no real sense. OMGZZZ HACK3R555555

 

[Battle Pope]

security vulnerabilities. making a conscious effort to promote lazy web development instead of sticking to standards. lots of things really.

 

[posol]

Originally posted by Calesta+Sep 20 2005, 07:30 PM-->

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Firefox still > Opera

But Opera is still a badass third party attempt at a browser. I'm just waiting for Google's version.

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google's version will probably be like MSN explorer. hell, google toolbar only works in IE... thats the one thinkg that google sucks about.
hell, their gmail is a joke.
sure, the service is great, but the coding behind it won't work in half of the browsers out there and uses M$ only code.

Seany-izzle@Sep 21 2005, 12:30 PM
sooo wtf is wrong with ie? i ask then get retarded answers that make no real sense. OMGZZZ HACK3R555555

[post=557730]Quoted post[/post]​

what is wrong with ie. I never thought you'd ask.


http://channels.lockergnome.com/news/archi..._explorer.phtml
http://tlog.dehumanizer.com/2005/09/01/why...ernet-explorer/
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103152/

hell, even UNIVERSITIES are telling its students to not use IE anymore:
http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ENS/web/dontuseie/

here's a good one: ie doesn't support png graphics as they should...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;294714

so, M$ suggest yet ANOTHER proprietary "hack" using filters...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/09/28enterwin_1.html


and there's about 34234323432323 other websites that will tell you similar things. do a google search.

 

[posol]

http://toastytech.com/evil/index.html

 

[phunky.buddha]

Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Sep 21 2005, 11:26 AM
google's version will probably be like MSN explorer. hell, google toolbar only works in IE... thats the one thinkg that google sucks about.
hell, their gmail is a joke.
sure, the service is great, but the coding behind it won't work in half of the browsers out there and uses M$ only code.

[post=557766]Quoted post[/post]​

Hmm. GMail works fine in FireFox for me.

I guess we'll see what happens with G Browser- wait for it to come out, and if it sucks- I won't use it. I'm sure enough of the techie community would bitch so that they would change it to meet standards.

 

[posol]

works in firefox, sure.

HTML TEST
Result:
Failed validation, 12 errors


CSS TEST
Results:

Errors
URI : https://mail.google.com/accounts/ServiceLog...ad&ltmplcache=2

* Line: 19 Context : body

Invalid number : margin-top only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 2
* Line: 21 Context : .c

Invalid number : width only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 4
* Line: 21 Context : .c

Invalid number : height only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 4
* Line: 25 Context : .tl

Invalid number : width only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 4
* Line: 26 Context : .tr

Invalid number : width only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 4
* Line: 27 Context : .bl

Invalid number : width only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 4
* Line: 28 Context : .br

Invalid number : width only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 4
* Line: 208

Invalid number : margin-bottom only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 5
* Line: 210

Invalid number : padding only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 3 0
* Line: 353

Invalid number : margin only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 10 0
* Line: 372

Invalid number : margin-bottom only 0 can be a length. You must put an unit after your number : 5

Warnings
URI : https://mail.google.com/accounts/ServiceLog...ad&ltmplcache=2

* Line : 23 (Level : 1) You have no color with your background-color : .bubble
* Line : 32 (Level : 1) You have no color with your background-color : .form-noindent
* Line : 210 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative
* Line : 210 (Level : 2) font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative : #auto531522531522
* Line : 322 (Level : 1) You have no background-color with your color : div.errormsg
* Line : 323 (Level : 1) You have no background-color with your color : font.errormsg

uses frames, which are not accesbile on other devices like pda's, screen readers for the blind, and so forth...

i could go on and on....

 

[phunky.buddha]

Whatever. It shows up fine in my FireFox. Your average user isn't pulling apart code warnings to see if a page is 100% perfect.

 

[posol]

your average user is blind, either.

but you can't shut them out... especially on a global service like google.

 

[TurboMirage]

Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Sep 22 2005, 09:56 AM
your average user is blind, either.

but you can't shut them out... especially on a global service like google.

[post=558349]Quoted post[/post]​

yeah? :unsure: