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Phantom Grip Limited Slip Differential Conversion

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    mrnice1058 Senior Member

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    Phantom Grip Limited Slip Differential Conversion Kit. what do you guys think of it?
     
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    Waste of money. They are known as "phantom slip" Save and buy a Quaife.
    clutch/viscous/torsen action = a real lsd
    binding up the spider gears = not a real lsd
    Want to read up? http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm
     
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    Phaton Grip, in laymens terms is not a real LSD.

    I think Phantom Grip is the only option for D series...and it's better than nothing, from what I have been told, but not worth the money.

    If you got a B series tranny, def. get an ITR LSD or Quiafe
     
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    Nope, you can get both OEM and aftermarket LSDs for the D series transmissions.
     
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    i have a phantom grip on my LS bseries tranny and it works great.
    if u do choose to go with phantom grip make sure u get the spring tuning tool.
     
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    i have a b series tranny so what exactly does the phantom do and how do i get my hand on one those real lsd's?
     
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    Go read up on Phantom Grip's site.
     
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    i know what they are supose to do but what i want to know is where can i get my hands on one of the "real"lsd tranny parts anyone know??
     
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    dam 2g's there is no way i can just get the differental and install it on my b16 tranny?
     
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    Buy a Quaife for $850 and put it in.
     
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    ive seen jdm ctr/itr lsd's sell for below 300 on ebay and those just replace the differential inside your b16 tranny and shabangalang you got LSD... a way better 1 than the phantom grip but still comparable to queef ? quaife ? whatever
     
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    ok i know this is long this is an email i got from two of my friends what i want to know about is the viscous technique is this true all you need is thick ass fluids and you are good? and will it work? i mean for the mean time until i can save up for the "real"lsd?
     
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    My transmission is from a JDM SiR2 (not a Type R) and has the gear based Torsen LSD. The clutch LSDs were generally in pre-94 Integras and pre-92 Civics. Most other OEM Honda applications from those periods on up use gear based limited slip diffs.

    The viscous LSD is still an LSD- you can't just put thick fluid in your transmission and expect it to operate like an LSD. It uses alternating plates with grooves cut into them- the grooves run cross-wise to each other from plate to plate. The fluid acts on these grooves to make the plates resist turning against each other, and that's what produces the limited slip effect.
     
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    dam i want to grow up and be just like you thanks man that info kicked ass barely inderstood it but it sounds dam good....lol nah i got it basically stop being cheap and get the good stuff i will keep my eye out on ebay for them but first i need to get my engine in and running good then i will go for all that i just figured since my engine is out i could do it but i see the phantom is not worth the money so i will wait...
     
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    If you want to "grow up" to be just like me (and nobody should), you should try to use proper spelling, capitalization, punctuation and grammar. People will be more likely to help you if they can understand your posts.

    If you want to get your engine back together with a Phantom Grip you can- just be careful to install it correctly. For the same price though, you should still just look out for an OEM LSD to install into your transmission. Most engine suppliers actually only charge a $300 premium for the OEM LSD option on a Honda transmission, so you might be able to sell the transmission you have right now and just buy another one. That would save you the hassle of trying to pull your transmission apart and installing an LSD- there's more involved than just dropping it in.
     
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    DAM IT! (is that better) I just sold my Tranny and got a LS tranny it took me like 4 weeks to get this all done i wish Steve would have told me that about the LSD, but i guess i didn't notice that is my fault for not doing the proper research thank you Master your apprentice is learning
     
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    It's cool. :)

    Why did you get the LS transmission? What did you have before? I guess Steve is the one who's doing your engine work, right?
     
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