picked up a 89 si hatch

[CAFROG]

For a 1.8 with bolt ons....I think it's impressive and it would tear up a lot of cars.

 

[INJEN78]

13's is not fast,your right.but it is pretty quick for "just a honda" and in dillskates defense,working on engine shit is much easier with the hood off.

 

[dilbeckskate]

lol the hoods not on because I just dropped the motor in, literally just threw in the motor mount bolts and took the pic, better pics up next day I get off work, full wire tuck, and its just a stock sohc zc, its going to be a dd guys, and whoever mentioned the front end its just getting a 90-91 usdm crx front end conversion, all I need left is corners for it to be complete, and im not using the ricer hood I picked up, im going to hold off on a hood till I find a oem one, it doesnt really matter till I find one because the car is just sitting in the spare bay in my shop lol and this car is most likely staying d-series powered, if anything I will throw my dohc zc in it later, but regardless its prob going to end up turbocharged on 8-10 lbs with a conservative street tune, should still be relatively quick, as with it just zc powered I see it being pretty much a pepper version of a stock si ef lol this zc was originally carb'd and came with the mechanical fuel pump on the head, ive never seen one before and its pretty neat

 

[CAFROG]

The thin line between FAST and NOT FAST must be....? 11's? I mean....I realize such things are merely opinion based but I think any 13 second car would be very fun to drive.

 

[dilbeckskate]

I 100% agree, as a street car, dd chassis, any 13 second car is going to be a blast to drive, I mean you have to realize how many domestic sports cars with v8s are running high 14s 15s 16s and are relatively quick cars lol running 13s is deff a fun car to drive

 

[double0Si]

15s and 16s? Maybe in the early 90s. Mid-low 13s and under is the norm these days. I'm not saying they're not fun to drive, just saying it's not "fast." And definitely not gonna "kill most fast modern cars."

And anytime you have to say something is ___a___ for a ___b___, it just plain isn't (a) by the normal standards.

 

[dc4dude]

ok, ok...ill admit that most "performance"oriented vehicles coming out perform pretty decently... and that 13 and 14 second timeslips are becoming more and more the norm, that being said, for a "mild" and "budget" build to keep up with them IS pretty impressive, and if not fast, can be considered at least fun... right?

 

[CAFROG]

Just to put some light on the subject.....never said FAST. But mid 13's will Kill most fast modern cars. This is my opinion....just like you guys have your own opinion. I'm aware that there are some fast modern cars but Very Few can claim sub 13 second passes in stock trim. And Most modern cars are rolling around in stock trim....no one can deny that. Hell.....I killed a new Camaro Z28 (almost 2 car lengths and he knew he lost real quick) and I'm only high 13's. He was automatic but I made him think twice when he tries to embarrass the next Honda. I made a 350Z look like a fool. I'm out for the reckoning. And I'm gonna get faster so I can make mod'd modern cars looks like fools too.....as I roll on stock meshies.

 

[dc4dude]

Just to put some light on the subject.....never said FAST. But mid 13's will Kill most fast modern cars. This is my opinion....just like you guys have your own opinion. I'm aware that there are some fast modern cars but Very Few can claim sub 13 second passes in stock trim. And Most modern cars are rolling around in stock trim....no one can deny that. Hell.....I killed a new Camaro Z28 (almost 2 car lengths and he knew he lost real quick) and I'm only high 13's. He was automatic but I made him think twice when he tries to embarrass the next Honda. I made a 350Z look like a fool. I'm out for the reckoning. And I'm gonna get faster so I can make mod'd modern cars looks like fools too.....as I roll on stock meshies.

Well said!!! 13's is what im aiming for in the near future... Then later on when boost becomes an option, 12's... We will see...

 

[double0Si]

Just to put some light on the subject.....never said FAST. But mid 13's will Kill most fast modern cars.

20+yr/old Honda that'll mess with most street cars that think Honda sucks. Actually......kill most fast modern cars. Mid 13's on drag radials.

You're right, you in fact did not go all caps when you said fast the first time, but unless somehow you're saying that a NOT fast car can "kill most fast modern cars" (by hitting mid 13's) then I'm preeeeetty sure you at least implied FAST. Technically said it was even faster than fast!

This is my opinion....just like you guys have your own opinion. I'm aware that there are some fast modern cars but Very Few can claim sub 13 second passes in stock trim. And Most modern cars are rolling around in stock trim....no one can deny that. Hell.....I killed a new Camaro Z28 (almost 2 car lengths and he knew he lost real quick) and I'm only high 13's. He was automatic but I made him think twice when he tries to embarrass the next Honda. I made a 350Z look like a fool. I'm out for the reckoning. And I'm gonna get faster so I can make mod'd modern cars looks like fools too.....as I roll on stock meshies.

I can fully deny that most cars are running around in stock trim. Maybe not in comifornia where the wrong scented air freshener will put you behind bars. Out here I see them modded all the time at cruise-ins, car shows, the track, in the line at Taco Bell. Everywhere.

Also Seeing as how there is NO new Z28 yet, I'm gonna have to call lol It was probably an RS V6. Which yea, they run high 13s. But they're not even the "fast" model of that car. A 2011 SS will run bottom 13s to high 12s and dip into the 11s with simple bolt ons and DRs. So yea, you may have gotten the jump on somebody, but who doesn't now and then? It's does'nt mean it's gonna KILL most of them out there. A 350Z? Congrats. They're not fast either, 14s, and been around for almost a decade. lmao

I'm not saying your car isn't quick, or peppy . Just not that fast by today's standards. I'd hope you'd catch some wins with a completely swapped drivetrain/suspension etc against mostly stock cars weighing in close to double your little hatch. Haha I just don't have to be impressed by it. It's still just "fast... for a Honda."

While we're on the subject of me being an asshole, I'd like to revisit this little gem.

Very Few can claim sub 13 second passes in stock trim.

Here's a quick list of STOCK cars that will even best 12s. Doesn't look current (complete) either. But it even includes a Mustang... So imagine how long the list of cars that'll beat 13s must be!

2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport 9.7 sec @ 145 mph (233 km/h) [46]
2009 SSC Ultimate Aero TT 9.9 sec @ 144 mph (232 km/h) [note] [47]
2012 Lamborghini Aventador 10.4 sec @ 136 mph (219 km/h) [48]
2006 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 10.5 sec @ 145 mph (233 km/h) [note] [49]
2013 Nissan GT-R 10.87 sec @ 125.26 mph (201.59 km/h) [50]
2012 Ferrari 458 Italia 10.9 sec @ 133 mph (214 km/h) [51]
2012 McLaren MP4-12C 10.9 sec @ 132 mph (212 km/h) [52]
2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670–4 SuperVeloce 10.9 sec @ 129 mph (208 km/h) [53]
2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S 10.9 sec @ 127 mph (204 km/h) [3]
2009 Ascari A10 11.0 sec @ 138 mph (222 km/h) [54]
2009 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 11.2 sec @ 130.5 mph (210.0 km/h) [55]
2009 Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 11.2 sec @ 130 mph (210 km/h) [56]
2005 Ford GT 11.2 sec @ 128 mph (206 km/h) [57]
2012 Nissan GT-R 11.2 sec @ 122 mph (196 km/h) [58]
2004 Porsche Carrera GT 11.3 sec @ 131 mph (211 km/h) [59]
2004 Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 11.3 sec @ 127 mph (204 km/h) [60]
2007 Noble M400 11.4 sec @ 119 mph (192 km/h) [61]
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 11.5 sec @ 126 mph (203 km/h) [62]
2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 11.6 sec @ 126 mph (203 km/h) [63]
2013 Shelby Mustang 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph (202.3 km/h) [64]
2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG 11.6 sec @ 125 mph (201 km/h) [65]
2009 Rossion Q1 11.6 sec @ 121 mph (195 km/h) [14]
2000 Saleen S7 11.7 sec @ 126 mph (203 km/h) [66]
2010 Porsche Panamera Turbo 11.7 sec @ 119 mph (192 km/h) [67]
2012 Lexus LFA 11.8 sec @ 123 mph (198 km/h) [68]
2005 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG 11.9 sec @ 123 mph (198 km/h)

At the very least I know the Charger, Challenger, 300C, Viper, Camaro, Vette, CTS-V, and Mustang will be on there. So yea, all your mullet mobiles are faster than you, even in stock trim. Shit even the Jeep Grand Cherokee puts down a solid 13.3!

 

[ArenasPerformance]

Nice build... Keep up the good work.

 

[dilbeckskate]

You're right, you in fact did not go all caps when you said fast the first time, but unless somehow you're saying that a NOT fast car can "kill most fast modern cars" (by hitting mid 13's) then I'm preeeeetty sure you at least implied FAST. Technically said it was even faster than fast!



I can fully deny that most cars are running around in stock trim. Maybe not in comifornia where the wrong scented air freshener will put you behind bars. Out here I see them modded all the time at cruise-ins, car shows, the track, in the line at Taco Bell. Everywhere.

Also Seeing as how there is NO new Z28 yet, I'm gonna have to call lol It was probably an RS V6. Which yea, they run high 13s. But they're not even the "fast" model of that car. A 2011 SS will run bottom 13s to high 12s and dip into the 11s with simple bolt ons and DRs. So yea, you may have gotten the jump on somebody, but who doesn't now and then? It's does'nt mean it's gonna KILL most of them out there. A 350Z? Congrats. They're not fast either, 14s, and been around for almost a decade. lmao

I'm not saying your car isn't quick, or peppy . Just not that fast by today's standards. I'd hope you'd catch some wins with a completely swapped drivetrain/suspension etc against mostly stock cars weighing in close to double your little hatch. Haha I just don't have to be impressed by it. It's still just "fast... for a Honda."

While we're on the subject of me being an asshole, I'd like to revisit this little gem.

Here's a quick list of STOCK cars that will even best 12s. Doesn't look current (complete) either. But it even includes a Mustang... So imagine how long the list of cars that'll beat 13s must be!

2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport 9.7 sec @ 145 mph (233 km/h) [46]
2009 SSC Ultimate Aero TT 9.9 sec @ 144 mph (232 km/h) [note] [47]
2012 Lamborghini Aventador 10.4 sec @ 136 mph (219 km/h) [48]
2006 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo 10.5 sec @ 145 mph (233 km/h) [note] [49]
2013 Nissan GT-R 10.87 sec @ 125.26 mph (201.59 km/h) [50]
2012 Ferrari 458 Italia 10.9 sec @ 133 mph (214 km/h) [51]
2012 McLaren MP4-12C 10.9 sec @ 132 mph (212 km/h) [52]
2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670–4 SuperVeloce 10.9 sec @ 129 mph (208 km/h) [53]
2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S 10.9 sec @ 127 mph (204 km/h) [3]
2009 Ascari A10 11.0 sec @ 138 mph (222 km/h) [54]
2009 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 11.2 sec @ 130.5 mph (210.0 km/h) [55]
2009 Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 11.2 sec @ 130 mph (210 km/h) [56]
2005 Ford GT 11.2 sec @ 128 mph (206 km/h) [57]
2012 Nissan GT-R 11.2 sec @ 122 mph (196 km/h) [58]
2004 Porsche Carrera GT 11.3 sec @ 131 mph (211 km/h) [59]
2004 Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 11.3 sec @ 127 mph (204 km/h) [60]
2007 Noble M400 11.4 sec @ 119 mph (192 km/h) [61]
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 11.5 sec @ 126 mph (203 km/h) [62]
2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 11.6 sec @ 126 mph (203 km/h) [63]
2013 Shelby Mustang 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph (202.3 km/h) [64]
2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG 11.6 sec @ 125 mph (201 km/h) [65]
2009 Rossion Q1 11.6 sec @ 121 mph (195 km/h) [14]
2000 Saleen S7 11.7 sec @ 126 mph (203 km/h) [66]
2010 Porsche Panamera Turbo 11.7 sec @ 119 mph (192 km/h) [67]
2012 Lexus LFA 11.8 sec @ 123 mph (198 km/h) [68]
2005 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG 11.9 sec @ 123 mph (198 km/h)

At the very least I know the Charger, Challenger, 300C, Viper, Camaro, Vette, CTS-V, and Mustang will be on there. So yea, all your mullet mobiles are faster than you, even in stock trim. Shit even the Jeep Grand Cherokee puts down a solid 13.3!

I completely agree, but theres quite a large pricetag difference between a 13 second honda and any one of those cars

 

[double0Si]

Of course, I'm just rebutting his outrageous claims. If we're gonna act like we're talking facts, at least be semi factual... Still, again, 13s isn't hard even on the cheap. 90s S10, junkyard V8/auto, Jegs swap kit, decent tires and you'd probably be knocking on the door of 11s if not in them for FAR less than a K swapped EG hatch. Juuuuust throwing that in the mix.

 

[dilbeckskate]

Of course, I'm just rebutting his outrageous claims. If we're gonna act like we're talking facts, at least be semi factual... Still, again, 13s isn't hard even on the cheap. 90s S10, junkyard V8/auto, Jegs swap kit, decent tires and you'd probably be knocking on the door of 11s if not in them for FAR less than a K swapped EG hatch. Juuuuust throwing that in the mix.

true, touche sir

 

[dilbeckskate]

 

[dilbeckskate]

w/10psi wastegate

 

[TurboMirage]

that didnt take long

 

[dilbeckskate]

that didnt take long

I horse traded my buddy my spare d16a6 for the manifold and the turbo

 

[CAFROG]

Of course, I'm just rebutting his outrageous claims. If we're gonna act like we're talking facts, at least be semi factual... Still, again, 13s isn't hard even on the cheap. 90s S10, junkyard V8/auto, Jegs swap kit, decent tires and you'd probably be knocking on the door of 11s if not in them for FAR less than a K swapped EG hatch. Juuuuust throwing that in the mix.

I disagree with you. Most fast modern cars are not mod'd. Dont have to to be a statistics genius to see that.I would think i wouldnt agree with many of your points of view. You rant has left me thinking you have a hard time gettig along with a variety of people and personalities.

And sorry I didn't claim the right douche bag Camaro. It was an SS not a Z28. V6? Gimme a break.

Guy with weak K-Swap out. No use arguing with you further...waste of time and posts on a thread.

 

[double0Si]

Yea because the kind of people who go out and buy "fast" cars are definitely not the kind of people to try and make them faster. Whether it be by a simple K&N filter or full on twin turbo build, mods are mods... I get along just fine with people worth getting along with. Man, the kids out there are screwed...

The other day you were so sure it was a non-existent Z28. Are you so sure it was an SS now? The RS' 300+hp V6s run similar times to you so it is much more likely you caught one of them slipping than a car that normally runs about a second quicker times than you... In stock form.