Pontiac Solstice

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My buddy who works for GM says that next year, they will be offering a V6 version. I love the body style of the car and has the potential to be a badass car, but its just like every other GM car. The only way to make power is make it a huge displacement (for the class) an if it still doesn't make power put boost on it. the eco-lack-of-tec is a joke. 2.4 liters and it is only making around 165hp. Honda had has been making that much power for 17 years now on the b16a, and now with there 2.0's are making 35 more hp out of .4 or 17 percent less displacement. And to be fair, instead of comparing the top of the line NA version of the ecotec to honda's best higher end Four cylinder, comparing the base 2.2L version of the ecotec with either the bace k20 or the d17, the k20 makes 20 more hp out of .2 liters less and the d17 makes the same power out of .5 liters less. And this isn't something that is restricted to the ecotec. The 3.5 liter in stock form in cars such as the impla, monte carlo, ect, is 201hp. Honda with the same displacment pulls 250hp out of there sedan engine. In the older generation of the sedans engine, the 3800 (which they have been using forever and still offer it in some pontiacs as well as other cars) again makes 201hp. So how do they compete with other engines offered by honda, nissan, ect? Throw a supercharger on it, and still in the Grand Prix GTP, it only makes 10 more hp with a .3L larger engine and a supercharger compared to the NA honda sedan engine. So what do you think will last longer, an NA engine or a supercharged engine. Any time you throw a blower on an engine, the reliablity will go down.

Then there is the vette. Yes, its extremely powerful with its 6.0l and 7.0l versions, however, its a 50 year old modified design, and its 6.0 and 7.0 liters. With that size engine, its not hard to make 400hp. Porsche almost makes that (355hp) out of there 3.8 liter engine. GM really needs to get their head out of their ass and go back to the drawing board and created new technologys or get with the time and do away with push rods and huge displacements. One of the engines that gm is braging about is the new 3.9liter engine for the impala that brags how its the first cam-in-block engine with varible vavle timing. About time they sport VVT but why in an old cam in block design.


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asmallsol @ Nov 10 2005 said:
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My buddy who works for GM says that next year, they will be offering a V6 version. I love the body style of the car and has the potential to be a badass car, but its just like every other GM car. The only way to make power is make it a huge displacement (for the class) an if it still doesn't make power put boost on it. the eco-lack-of-tec is a joke. 2.4 liters and it is only making around 165hp. Honda had has been making that much power for 17 years now on the b16a, and now with there 2.0's are making 35 more hp out of .4 or 17 percent less displacement. And to be fair, instead of comparing the top of the line NA version of the ecotec to honda's best higher end Four cylinder, comparing the base 2.2L version of the ecotec with either the bace k20 or the d17, the k20 makes 20 more hp out of .2 liters less and the d17 makes the same power out of .5 liters less. And this isn't something that is restricted to the ecotec. The 3.5 liter in stock form in cars such as the impla, monte carlo, ect, is 201hp. Honda with the same displacment pulls 250hp out of there sedan engine. In the older generation of the sedans engine, the 3800 (which they have been using forever and still offer it in some pontiacs as well as other cars) again makes 201hp. So how do they compete with other engines offered by honda, nissan, ect? Throw a supercharger on it, and still in the Grand Prix GTP, it only makes 10 more hp with a .3L larger engine and a supercharger compared to the NA honda sedan engine. So what do you think will last longer, an NA engine or a supercharged engine. Any time you throw a blower on an engine, the reliablity will go down.

Then there is the vette. Yes, its extremely powerful with its 6.0l and 7.0l versions, however, its a 50 year old modified design, and its 6.0 and 7.0 liters. With that size engine, its not hard to make 400hp. Porsche almost makes that (355hp) out of there 3.8 liter engine. GM really needs to get their head out of their ass and go back to the drawing board and created new technologys or get with the time and do away with push rods and huge displacements. One of the engines that gm is braging about is the new 3.9liter engine for the impala that brags how its the first cam-in-block engine with varible vavle timing. About time they sport VVT but why in an old cam in block design.


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Maybe large displacement is still a selling point for them? Doesn't mean they shouldn't develop something better though.
 
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