and aren't stickers supposed to give you 50 horsepower?
it just doesn't work.
here's why:
The premise is that the ECU is massively advancing the timing because of the reduced MAP signal. Manually retarding a few degrees or even 5 degrees with a BTM just won't do any good when you're talking about nearly 30 degrees total advance. The "naysayers" make an awfully good case for this too.
The afc hack, nor an fmu, do *NOT* increase or decrease timing. Why? Well the honda ecu controls the timing not the afc. However the afc hack can trick the honda ecu into doing weird things with the timing.
However, at WOT, the honda ecu is in open loop, using set fuel maps and timing maps. So the timing at WOT is going to be the same if using a stock honda non-turbo, afc hack, or a fmu setup. The only time timing will become an issue with the afc hack is at part thorttle and low rpm and in boost.
The honda computer advances the timing at low rpms and part throttle for increased torque..but with boost added this can cause detonation.
Due to the voltage stuff mentioned above- the msd btm, retarding .75 degrees per psi of boost, is meaning less, at 30 dregrees total advance.
If you want to manage detonation- Run good fuel, with a good fuel set up.
you are willing to spend $3000 on a turbo kit.
but cry and whine about $500 for a hondata to make it last.
i don't understand.
it just doesn't work.
here's why:
The premise is that the ECU is massively advancing the timing because of the reduced MAP signal. Manually retarding a few degrees or even 5 degrees with a BTM just won't do any good when you're talking about nearly 30 degrees total advance. The "naysayers" make an awfully good case for this too.
The afc hack, nor an fmu, do *NOT* increase or decrease timing. Why? Well the honda ecu controls the timing not the afc. However the afc hack can trick the honda ecu into doing weird things with the timing.
However, at WOT, the honda ecu is in open loop, using set fuel maps and timing maps. So the timing at WOT is going to be the same if using a stock honda non-turbo, afc hack, or a fmu setup. The only time timing will become an issue with the afc hack is at part thorttle and low rpm and in boost.
The honda computer advances the timing at low rpms and part throttle for increased torque..but with boost added this can cause detonation.
Due to the voltage stuff mentioned above- the msd btm, retarding .75 degrees per psi of boost, is meaning less, at 30 dregrees total advance.
If you want to manage detonation- Run good fuel, with a good fuel set up.
you are willing to spend $3000 on a turbo kit.
but cry and whine about $500 for a hondata to make it last.
i don't understand.
