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Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Capt. Orygun, May 3, 2007.

  1. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    So here's my attempt

    I really only need to drop like 5lbs of fat, but I'm a bitch like that with my self consciousness and I'm short so there's no place to hide it around the stomach

    here's basically what it looks like

    Monday

    Breakfast- Slimfast Shake
    10AM- One half Orange
    Lunch- Low Carb Hi fiber multigrain wrap (FF ranch, baked chicken breast, lettuce, peppers, onions, cucumber)
    3:30- PM An Apple
    Dinner: Two small (6oz) teriyaki chicken breasts with a small bowl of Kashi go lean crunch cereal in 1% organic milk

    Supplements
    Mega Men Sport Multivitamins
    Hydroxycut Xtreme
    Psyllium Husk twice daily
    B-vitamin water for energy
    Diet Rockstar for energy

    Then the workout-
    Monday- Cardio
    Tuesday- Strength training
    Wed- Cardio
    Thursday- Strength training
    Friday- Cardio
    Saturday- Light strength training, time permitting

    This is going until Friday June 1st wish me luck

    EDIT: I'm also going to a tanning bed, I wanna look hot this summer lol
     
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  2. eg6sir

    eg6sir Supa Mod Moderator VIP

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    i'd probably drop like 15lbs after doing that.. but i need to get in shape
     
  3. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    for 5 pounds ? Go to taco bell !
     
  4. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    it's vanity weight, hard to loose
     
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    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    Then maybe you should subsitute thos weight gain formulas for some good ol' fashioned Dr Denis Leary therapy.
     
  6. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    what weight gain? I don't need that shit.
     
  7. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    I'd suggest using protein more often in your diet.

    It'll leave you fuller longer, and helps retain muscle while cutting. Also I'd suggest taking glutamine post cardio, as that's when your muscles tend to break down, and that's where the real weight lost starts.

    Personally I use a glutamine/whey shake if I'm going to supplement. I always get in at least 175 grams of protein(body weight for maintenance), and I've been cutting for a few weeks now, and it seems to be doing the trick.
     
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    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    ?

    it's low carb, high fiber, high protien by deisgn. Even that wrap I used had like 5 grams of protien...

    Just cause it's not steak doesn't mean it doesn't have a load of protien. I had a sweet basil seared Cod fillet for dinner tuesday, 20 grams of protien at 6oz of fish
     
  9. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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  10. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    natural sugars are fine, it's simple sugars that will get you

    I avoid sodium and Sugar where I can

    and the milk I drink isn't bad, it's Organic which means no growth hormone, which causes ur body to retain fat. Milk has been shown to actually help you metabolism in some studies. But anyways, I only eat it with my Kashi, which is prolly the most perfect food ever so far as balancing taste and health goes

    And I'm strictly abstainng from Chocolate, potato chips, ANYTHING like that. Not even one Dorito will touch my mouth this month...

    As much as this is a diet it's actually more f an exerpiment, I want to see how my body will react
     
  11. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    And Fuck PETA

    I'm skipping lunch to go kill an animal for clicking on that link
     
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    totalburnout Well-Known Member VIP

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    5grams of protein is nothing. Thats not "high protein".

    If we give you 8grams of protein for the slimfast shake - which is probably overshooting, but its probably anywhere from 5-12grams of protein.

    6oz chicken breast. 35grams of protein. Multiple by 3 if you use a full breast in the wrap. 105grams of protein.

    We'll take best case scenario here.
    105grams - 3 chicken breasts (2 at dinner, 1 full one in the wrap)
    12grams - Slimfast
    5grams - Wrap


    At best we're at 122grams of protein a day, thats not a great deal when you're working out and cutting. That diet is seriously far too sparse. Its giving you maybe a 1500 calorie day, talk about sending your body into shock and ketosis, thinking its starving itself. You have to gradually bring your calories down when you become closer and closer to your target goal, maybe if you were extremely overweight you should start cutting calories like that - but I mean thats maintenance calories for like a 110lb woman.

    Also, Diet Rockstars don't give you energy - they give you the perception that you have energy and then you crash afterwards.

    Also that link about Milk was the most slanted and skewed propaganda that I have seen in a long time, only a politician or a lobbying group could possibly through such garbage out there and polish it up to look so nicely. The only downside to Low fat skim milk is the naturally occurring sugars in lactose, except when the rest of your diet is in check these extra sugars mean nothing; a healthy person will burn the sugars off instantaneously. A morbidly obese person shouldn't drink milk like water, but certainly a healthy person like myself or Silver would have no problem drinking milk as a substitute for water. When I was heavy into lifting I would finish a gallon of milk in 2-3days.
     
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    ive never weighed over 145lbs, i love having high metabolism.
     
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    Just for that you are going to be obese very soon
     
  15. chestercheeto48

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    Wait until you hit 25 or so and it slows down.
     
  16. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    Word seriously.


    With the diet you posted, any time you eat bad, you're going to store the fat like crazy, and in the worst place possible. Your love handles, and abdomen. Because that's where men store fat. First place you'll lose it is in your face, then arms, then legs, then belly, then love handles. It sucks.

    But the only way you can completely get rid of those areas is by lowering your total body fat, and to do so eating a maintenance calorie intake, say you weigh 150 lbs, you sit in a chair for a living, so your calorie intake is around 2300(random guess there are online tables for this, and shit to find how many calories you need to maintain), then you run, increasing the amount used. Let's say you burned 200 calories running that day. That means you needed 2500 calories, and you ate 2300 Over a week that means you burnt 1400 calories, taking into account you didn't binge once, and ran every single day, which is highly unlikely. I'm not sure how much fat that can be, but on average, a 1400 calorie reduction over a week is about 1-1.4 lbs. Not entirely fat, mostly shrinking muscle fibers if you don't eat well and water.

    There is a percentage of how many calories you need in a day to be composed of protein and carbohydrates to be efficient at not losing significant muscle size, maintaining strength, and burning fat.

    It takes weeks and weeks to get your body used to losing fat. I'm 9 weeks in personally, and 4.5 months into lifting 4-5 days a week in an INTENSE fashioned. I've had to switch from beer to vodka this past week, because my weekends were killing me and storing the fat in my love handles. I don't have a solid 6 pack yet, but I still have love handles, because my body loves storing fat there.

    An example of my habits: I ran this morning, had a protein shake to supplement the cereal I had that wasn't rich in protein UPPING my morning protein to around 45 grams, including the non-fat I had in my cereal. That means I need to consume at least 130 more grams to maintain the size of muscle fibers I have while working out, to not shock my body into losing muscle at the same time of fat.


    I'll do some more research for ya tonight, as I personally need to fight these love handles so I look better this coming weekend for wakeboarding with the hotties.
     
  17. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    sorry the wrap has 11 grams of protein, and that's extremely high protein, for a empty tortilla

    add to it the can of tuna fish I put in it and it's a 43.5 protein gram lunch

    The Kashi has crazy levels of soy protein for breakfast cereal (9 grams per dry cup + milk @ 10grams cup is a 19 gram sum)

    and the shakes have 10grams, their kirkland

    I'm roughly getting 140grams of protein a day. I weigh 167. If your lifting for muscular gain you need one gram for every one lb of body fat. I'm eating for muscular retention. At 5'5" and 167 with only 5lbs to lose it should be plain to everyone that I have plenty of muscle mass. Even at 160 (which would be overshooting my goal by 2 lbs) I would have a BMI of 26.6. When I was 155lbs I had an electrolysis body fat calibration of 7.9%, and even then I would be .8 into the "overweight" category.

    I have plenty of muscle for my frame, and I'm getting enough protein

    EDIT: I would need to weight 148 to be "normal" by BMI standards
     
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  18. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    Well since you clarifed correctly then it is a completely different diet than you originally posted.


    Personally I follow 1gram for 1 lb for maintenance/loss. , and 1.5grams for 1 lb for weight gain.
     
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    Black Widow g2 *princess*

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    my problem is the excess skin. Pregnancy stretched it out, and now that 'weight' isn't weight at all, it's a bit of skin starting to fold over. Tummy tuck FTW. But... I've gained 10 lbs in a year... I've been going back to healthier eating habits and lost 3 lbs in a week. :) Good luck, Cam... and btw... I need to hit the tanning bed this year too, but I think I'll tan before I go on my cruise and keep it thru summer.
     
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    I eat burgers, fries, chicken sandwiches, deep fried anything and soda through out the day...

    and I lose 5 pounds doing it.
     
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