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EXtremeAccord
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This is the comment to end all comments....
"Smoking is the American dream. Where else can someone legally kill themselves slowly and sometimes painfully?"
Can I getz a hells yes?
Been to Iraq lately? I have... flew 25,000 miles just to smoke a Camel! Ba-ZING!
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"Smoking is the American dream. Where else can someone legally kill themselves slowly and sometimes painfully?"
Can I getz a hells yes?
Been to Iraq lately? I have... flew 25,000 miles just to smoke a Camel! Ba-ZING!
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sohcslammer
Senior Member
Originally posted by dveit@Nov 5 2004, 11:25 AM
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actually i heard it was something more along each cigerette takes 7 minutes off your life. oh well, either way... you're dying.
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That's what I heard too. But I also heard laughing adds 9 minutes. So everytime you go have a cigg, laugh it up fucker...
Wow, you're all wrong. That 7 minutes bs was just some rumor.
There was a 50 year study in Europe that proved that the life expectancy of a smoker is 5-10 years less than that of a non-smoker, however, someone who quits before they are 30 will have the same life expectancy of someone who has never smoked.
There was a 50 year study in Europe that proved that the life expectancy of a smoker is 5-10 years less than that of a non-smoker, however, someone who quits before they are 30 will have the same life expectancy of someone who has never smoked.
EXtremeAccord
Senior Member
Really? COOL! I can smoke for another ten years and then quit, and live as long as Grandpa Moldy! I'll spend 40 years of my life getting the Senior Citizen discount at IHOP. MUWAHAHAHAHA! Suckers.
smoking bans are fucking retarded
it is an issue that should be decided on by the buisness' themselves
smoking and drinking go hand in hand... i know several people who ONLY smoke when they drink... since the smoking ban took effect in CT bars have definatly taken a hit. the only bars that still have good attendance are the ones with outdoor areas (patios, rooftops, etc) where smoking is allowed, attendance is also greatly effected by weather now... rain = not as many people going to the bar, cold = not as many people going to the bar... the ban took effect april 1st, so this winter will be the first with the ban in effect... cant wait to see how many bars end up closing
about the only places that have had a solid increase in attendance since the ban have been the 2 casinos and private member only clubs (polish clubs, french clubs, VFWs, etc....) the casinos are on indian land and therefore are not effected by the smoking ban, the private clubs are not open to the general public, so the ban does not effect them
as far as resturants go, if a resturant wants to have a smoking section it should be up to them.... i am a smoker and still when going to a nice resturant, 9 out of 10 times (when i still had the choice) i would pick a non smoking section... i just dont like people around me smoking while im eating... whatever... there were plenty of resturants that did not allow smoking at all (when it was still the resturants choice)... i still went...
on the other hand when going to a 24 hour diner or whatever, i would always sit in the smoking section... me and my friends frequented this one particular diner on average about 10 times a week... we would sit there for usually an hour or so after we finished our food and drink coffee while bullshitting and smoking... we generally tipped at least 40% of the bill.... often if we were just there for coffee the tip was well over 200%... now we go there maybe one or two times a month if that... the place definatly doesnt have the business that it use to... and im sure other diners were effected the same way
so now that all the fucking cry babies that were so fucking bothered by the smoke, (mind you, they had the choice to go to an establishment that allowed smoking or not) finally got their wish and are all happy now that they can go out and not come home "smelling like an ashtray"... i wonder how happy they will be when their favorite places start closing down because they dont make enough money any more
it is an issue that should be decided on by the buisness' themselves
smoking and drinking go hand in hand... i know several people who ONLY smoke when they drink... since the smoking ban took effect in CT bars have definatly taken a hit. the only bars that still have good attendance are the ones with outdoor areas (patios, rooftops, etc) where smoking is allowed, attendance is also greatly effected by weather now... rain = not as many people going to the bar, cold = not as many people going to the bar... the ban took effect april 1st, so this winter will be the first with the ban in effect... cant wait to see how many bars end up closing
about the only places that have had a solid increase in attendance since the ban have been the 2 casinos and private member only clubs (polish clubs, french clubs, VFWs, etc....) the casinos are on indian land and therefore are not effected by the smoking ban, the private clubs are not open to the general public, so the ban does not effect them
as far as resturants go, if a resturant wants to have a smoking section it should be up to them.... i am a smoker and still when going to a nice resturant, 9 out of 10 times (when i still had the choice) i would pick a non smoking section... i just dont like people around me smoking while im eating... whatever... there were plenty of resturants that did not allow smoking at all (when it was still the resturants choice)... i still went...
on the other hand when going to a 24 hour diner or whatever, i would always sit in the smoking section... me and my friends frequented this one particular diner on average about 10 times a week... we would sit there for usually an hour or so after we finished our food and drink coffee while bullshitting and smoking... we generally tipped at least 40% of the bill.... often if we were just there for coffee the tip was well over 200%... now we go there maybe one or two times a month if that... the place definatly doesnt have the business that it use to... and im sure other diners were effected the same way
so now that all the fucking cry babies that were so fucking bothered by the smoke, (mind you, they had the choice to go to an establishment that allowed smoking or not) finally got their wish and are all happy now that they can go out and not come home "smelling like an ashtray"... i wonder how happy they will be when their favorite places start closing down because they dont make enough money any more
dohcvtec_accord
WRX Sellout
The term "smoking section" is a joke, as everyone knows. At least in its traditional sense. If a restaurant has half of its patrons sitting in the "smoking section", ALL of its patrons are sitting in the "smoking section".
Boulder (where I work) came up with a nice compromise. If restaurants/bars/whatever want to allow smoking, then they must have a separately-ventilated smoking area that's closed off from the rest of the establishment. That way, it's still up to the owner whether he wants to allow smoking, but he has to pay for that right.
Letting businesses decide for themselves won't work. The issue of smelling like complete ass....well, that's secondary. It sucks, but oh well. The real issue is, I don't want to be killed by your smoke. Secondhand smoke is as bad or worse than firsthand smoke. It's your right to smoke, of course. But it's NOT your right to kill me while doing it.
On a related note, the people of Colorado just voted to increase the statewide tax on tobacco products by something like $0.45 per pack of cigarettes. I forget what it is for other tobacco products, though. I would have voted for a $2 a pack increase. Then we could use the money for something worthwhile.
Boulder (where I work) came up with a nice compromise. If restaurants/bars/whatever want to allow smoking, then they must have a separately-ventilated smoking area that's closed off from the rest of the establishment. That way, it's still up to the owner whether he wants to allow smoking, but he has to pay for that right.
Letting businesses decide for themselves won't work. The issue of smelling like complete ass....well, that's secondary. It sucks, but oh well. The real issue is, I don't want to be killed by your smoke. Secondhand smoke is as bad or worse than firsthand smoke. It's your right to smoke, of course. But it's NOT your right to kill me while doing it.
On a related note, the people of Colorado just voted to increase the statewide tax on tobacco products by something like $0.45 per pack of cigarettes. I forget what it is for other tobacco products, though. I would have voted for a $2 a pack increase. Then we could use the money for something worthwhile.
I'm with E on this one.
I too was one of those who aws at the diner 5-10 times a week for years. the waitstaff and owners new us by name. we got larger portions, always a full cup of coffe, beause they liked us.
Now, I haven't been there in probably 2 months... maybe more.
their parking lot used to be packed every night for hours on end.
now, there's always parking.
their non-smoking section was never full. their smoking section was.
Now, in a place like this- a diner - i think banning of smoking is a horrible idea.
so did they.
they ended up cutting off a part of their parking lot and built a porch. See again what E said.
it's 40's here now- and the outside is closed.
and their business is going to be hurt again.
I like the idea what colorado did. I think that if that was impossed here, it would be taken very well.
but, yuppie non smokers are too concerned about the staff.
yup- the staff. The health of the staff is the MAIN reason why these bans where put into place in bars and restuarants.
HELLO!?!?!?! If you don't like smoke- DONT WORK IN A FUCKING BAR.
definitly.a part of the 52%. definitely
I too was one of those who aws at the diner 5-10 times a week for years. the waitstaff and owners new us by name. we got larger portions, always a full cup of coffe, beause they liked us.
Now, I haven't been there in probably 2 months... maybe more.
their parking lot used to be packed every night for hours on end.
now, there's always parking.
their non-smoking section was never full. their smoking section was.
Now, in a place like this- a diner - i think banning of smoking is a horrible idea.
so did they.
they ended up cutting off a part of their parking lot and built a porch. See again what E said.
it's 40's here now- and the outside is closed.
and their business is going to be hurt again.
I like the idea what colorado did. I think that if that was impossed here, it would be taken very well.
but, yuppie non smokers are too concerned about the staff.
yup- the staff. The health of the staff is the MAIN reason why these bans where put into place in bars and restuarants.
HELLO!?!?!?! If you don't like smoke- DONT WORK IN A FUCKING BAR.
definitly.a part of the 52%. definitely
CT made all of the bars in CT purchase elaborite ($$$$$$$$$$$$$) air filtering systems if they wanted to continue allowing smoking.... most did... then about 6 months later they passed the law banning smoking in any public building.... now the bars are stuck with these expensive air filtering systems that they dont have a use for any more... i have no problem with the seperate closed off area idea for a resturant... but trying to enforce that setup on a bar is rediculous
sure it would... its basic free market practice.... smoking is not a constitutional right or anything... meaning that any establishment could (before the bans) decide for itself wether it wants to allow smoking or not... several places allowed smoking... several places did not.... several places had seperate areas where smoking was allowed... now if non smokers did not like the fact that there was smoking allowed in a place, all they had to do was make their oppinion heard to the owner of the establishment, or not go there... if the owner valued the non smokers oppinion / business enough, they would make some type of adjustment accomodating them (ie: seperate smoking area or no longer allowing smoking)... like i said, before the bans there were already several places that did not allow smoking... it was up to the owners to allow it or not, and it was up to the patrons to go there or not... but now it is just flat out not allowed, regardless of what the owners / patrons want
(on a side note to demonstrate how rediculous this whole smoking ban concept is.... this happened to several places in NYC.... there were cigar bars..... one more time CIGAR BARS... now i dunno about you but when i hear CIGAR BAR... i would be willing to put money on it that there will be smoking going on there... and i'd even be willing to double down the bet that the main thing being smoked will be cigars... now if i was a non smoker that place would not be very high on my list of places to go, and if i did go there i would go there with full knowlege that there would be smoking, and if i was made unhappy by this it was my own damn fault..... but NO... several cigar bars in NYC were closed because smoking is no longer allowed in public buildings)
non smokers going to places BY CHOICE where they know damn well that people will be smoking and bitching about it, is like a vegan PETA member going to a fucking steak house and bitching about it
interesting arguement, but studies by the WHO and EPA have done large scale, long term (9 years for the WHO) studies, where they found no direct corelation between second hand smoke and disease... and have actually found some cases where exposure to second hand smoke has made people more resistant to certain diseases... so unless you are a SEVERE asthmatic i can not agree with the whole "killing you" statement... but just to clarify that i am not a complete dick, if im in a car or out with people who do not smoke, i generally will not smoke around them out of respect for them
this whole issue i just find hillarious to me
government says "smoking is bad! smoking kills! dont smoke!"
government taxes the shit out of tobacco
government pays for all of these child care / education / etc programs with money from the taxing of tobacco
so basicly if you dont buy tobacco the government cant fund all of these programs for the kids (no taxes = no money)
so what the government is telling you is.... "tobacco is bad, BUT if you care about the kids you should buy tobacco products"
EXtremeAccord
Senior Member
Newspaper office in Oklahoma. I went there to visit a fellow Basic Trainee's dad and he was smoking up a storm whilst editing some stuff or whatever. OK is teh place for teh sm0k33ng.