Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Briansol, Aug 18, 2010.
Last U.S. combat convoy has left Iraq - CNN.com
at least it seems that way
Probably the most misrepresented picture in history.
That's what I thought too!
See we fight wars a lot differently than we did during WW II. Desert Storm we stopped short and there is a chance we would have fought a similar war in 91. See back during the big one we carpet bombed, we leveled towns and with artillery, we gassed, and we even nuked. So what kind of resistence would be left after six months to a year of constant death? Now that we are all so much smarter with warfare and technology we focus on precision air strikes and small unit tactics. So our occupation after V-day in Iraq was so much harsher because we did not completely destroy the opposition mentally as well as physically.
So, The Decider was replaced by The Optimiser?
i wonder if all the convoys are going to afghanistan to lockdown that mineral mine they found.
Probably. I know a few people who just got deployed to Afghanistan.
HondaDude (one of our members here on HS) just got deployed to Kandahar in Afghanistan...
If we had continued forward in 91 it probably would have been a LOT worse than this war, as the people would have been more aligned with Saddam, BUT, this war wouldn't have happened, at lease not for another twenty years.
The problem with the wars we fight now is that we are fighting an intangible enemy ...terror. So, we have to remain sensible to the local nationals, and still wage a campaign of violence of action, those two don't reconcile well.
That is probably a fair assessment. There was zero security during the opening days of the occupation. We had Marines trying to act like social workers, promising water/power/food which we could not deliver and disbanded the military and police force out right. Internal security blew apart at the seems. I truly hope we do not forget the lessons learned from OIF.
the war on t.v. is over. this isn't going to be "over" for a LONG time.
We should have blitzed the fuckin place in 2 weeks....game over.
Fuck diplomacy and dragging that shit out. How many fewer people would have died if we had just raped the country end to end from the start?
let the occupation begin
The iraq war is over so that the iran war can start.
No we have Israel for that.
Now North Korea may be a diffrent story.
getting deployed... haven't left yet.
But I have 2 friends, in 1st CAV, both tankers (M1A2 Abrams) that are falling in on Tanks in Iraq. 3 buddies in 3rd INFANTRY division, that are headed out to Iraq within a month. Its just to shut "the people" up and tell them what they want to hear at the expensive of those who are serving.... pretty messed up if you ask me...
That sounds about right. When I was there we worked directly with the local government, and had a Army battalion under our wing for training, that country was decades away from stability. For fucks sake they had lines three miles long to get gas, and they would run out by noon, politicians still require armed guards, and escorts. No one agreed on anything, chaos.
Hey John you're back!
And yup, got a buddy heading out to Iraq in a month.
50000 troops to "advise and assist" until all troops are gone at the end of next year.
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