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Sutpid question but dont be hatin!!!

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by Niskyspy, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. Niskyspy

    Niskyspy Junior Member

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    OK here's something that people are prolly gonna yell at me about but I am just gonna blur it out.
    I am short on money but want an engine swap, cant afford B18C, dont want a turbo. Looking for a good reliable DD swap and started thinking about B16 OBDI cuz their so cheap and all. Now here's a question for you, will it be slower than the stock LS?
    Thank you.
     
  2. civicious

    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    I wouldn't swap if I were you. Just get a B16 head and tranny, and do LS/VTEC. It won't cost much more (actually, it would probably be about the same) and it would DEFINITELY be faster. Info for LS/VTEC's can be found here: http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11
     
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    Same here, that is what I would do
     
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    Niskyspy Junior Member

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    I like the Idea of LsVtec, I did a lot of reserch on it but its not that reliable as I heard. Thanks for the link though :)
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    yes it will be slower
    you are taking a significant torque loss

    take the money you would spend on the B16 and build up the LS
    get some rods and JDM B16 pistons... that will put you to 11:1 CR
    get some crower 403 or 404 cams and valvetrain
    maybe get a PnP
    get an ECU chipped to run the RPMs and proper fuel for that head setup
    maybe try to find a GSR tranny

    after that replace the intake manifold, the header, the exhaust, etc
    that engne will run right along with an ITR all fucking day... and will cost less than a B16

    fuck VTEC
     
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    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    Woah...for a second there, I thought Bill was back...


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    But yeah, an alternative to an LS/VTEC would be to do what E said...

    As far as LS/VTEC's being unreliable, they're only as unreliable as you build and tune them.
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    :)
    its a solid build

    if i was to build up another honda thats the route i would go
    everything is cheaper
    and people dont know what the hell to think when they see a fast NA nonVTEC honda
    it makes for a very solid "low profile" stup
     
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    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    D series > nonVTEC B series
     
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    How much will all that cost me without the "after that replace the intake manifold, the header, the exhaust, etc" and without the GSR tranny?
     
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    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    Honestly, if you're gonna keep your LS tranny, you might as well just do intake/header/exhaust...the LS tranny is the main thing kicking your ass right now. If you JUST put a B16 or GSR tranny and leave everything else stock, it'll be a shitload quicker than it is now.
     
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    Niskyspy Junior Member

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    yea, well I'll just keep thinking on what I should do.
     
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    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    You can think all you want, but it's not gonna make an LS tranny not suck.
     
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    ef9civicgen4 Senior Member

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    This too would be cheaper then a B16, and its alot easier to perform the install then an ls/vtec or what E said. But either way, you HAVE to get rid of the LS tranny, the are not designed for any kind of performance.
     
  14. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    Personally, I think the B16As tranny is better than the LS to the point that if you did swap one in the torque lose would be minimal, it's isn't like we're talking 50 lbs-ft, seriously, it's 11 (provided you are talking a JDM B16A).

    IMO, the SC sounds like a great idea. And what do you have against going turbo anyway?
     
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    word swap the tranny and just save. the ls has potential just do it right.
     
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    Cashizslick !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!

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    yeah skrew the s/c on an FWD car . . . turbo FTW!


    On an Fwd car, turbo lag is ur friend - better launches, better top end, etc.
     
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