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Taxpayers pay for 72 million bonus

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by reckedracing, May 12, 2005.

  1. reckedracing

    reckedracing TTIWWOP VIP

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    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...rton_72m_bonus/

    opinions?
    72 million?
    schools?
    health care?
    failing SS?
    poor border and port controls?

    but they just NEED a bonus right?!?!?!
     
  2. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    nuff said.

    if you still don't think he has a hand in that profit, you're only fooling yourself.

    congratulations, we just paid to give him self a bonus.
     
  3. Bob Vila

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    He left the company in 2000...how is he getting any more bonues? He is not part of the Board of Directors and is not listed as an active employee. The only way he could profit from Haliburton is if he owns stocks (which I am assuming he does).
     
  4. reckedracing

    reckedracing TTIWWOP VIP

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    he is still getting paid deferred compensation by the firm from when he worked there... or course he has a SEVERE financial interest in them remaining in business...

    as well as helping out all his old buddies who are still there...

    this is a highly unethical conflict of interest...

    this administration makes me fucking sick...

    and how can the american people not see this? or not do anything about it...
    i;m fucking pissed...
     
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    hybrid89 thistownsucks...

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    I am at a loss for words at how this country is financed/run!
     
  6. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    the real question is, what CAN we do?

    i tried to vote for kerry, but "god" won.
     
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    yeah thre is nothing that we can do, think about it. we all tried when we voted for Kerry lol.
     
  8. reckedracing

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    time for a rev-olu-tion... :ph34r:
     
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    Source?
     
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    Only problem is that today's youth are so apathetic (and by no accident) that it would be incredibly hard to muster up the millions of people that would be needed. :angry:

    American people are the frog in the pot, and the current government will make absolutely sure that they heat up the water slow enough that we never notice we're being boiled.
     
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    http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/uspresident/a/prestax2003.htm

    cheney 2003 return
    http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns....le/cheney03.pdf
     
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    Of course he's not going to be able to provide one, its all speculation.


    Perhaps they went with the company because Cheney ran it and they felt secure knowing that the man who was elected VP knows personally, because he actually oversaw the company, how the company operates.

    Whats more intimate then having your business partner be one that you knew and trust personally?
     
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    eat a dick



    is it that you have no fucking concept of ethics? or do you NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT A NO FUCKING BID CONTRACT IS?!?!?!

    no matter if he knew the company or not(even more reason to try and remain impartial) this huge gov't contract should have been put out for bids, and it remains quite obvious that halliburton is fucking the taxpayers...
    you wanna see the audit reports for my source?
     
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    Buddy, next time don't stop reading only where you see fit.




    He took an insurance policy out that guarantees he will receive, the fixed amount that was determined well before he went into office. Basically he just insured himself that he would have a constant income over future years without being taxed in a lump sum on the amount of money he earned.

    His insurance policy completely negates the idea that you put forth that he has a personal investment in whether or not the company survives, because right now he doesn't.
     
  15. pissedoffsol

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    5 years after...

    he left in 2000

    its 2005

    suddenly, they get 72 million.


    and WE'RE blind?
     
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    Ha, don't ask if you have your hand in any knowledge about running a country. Don't talk about ethics when you constantly speculate without having any actual proof about what you say. You're not in Dick Cheney's head so you have no idea whats running through it, for you to speculate and then act as if your word is the gospel is bullshit. :)


    Who says they didn't remain impartial? The government gives bonuses constantly, this isn't unusual. They give bonuses to workers for completing a federal highway early, who's to say that they can't give the company that Cheney used to work for a bonus. Are they not entitled to do so because people like yourself will speculate, "its only because he used to work for the company" when the process is actually commonplace? Hmmmm....
     
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    Does

    He

    Work

    For

    The

    Company?


    Is

    his

    income

    fixed

    or

    not?


    Did

    you

    not

    just

    read

    the

    tax

    receipts?

    Are you simply speculating? ...yes.
    Its unethical and corruption when you see a penny of that money going to Cheney, until then quit speculating because it hasn't happened.
     
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    it does not take a genius to realize that the no bid contract had something to do with favoratism... at the very least it should have been sent out to bid... no bid = bad ethics...

    and i don;t give a flying fucking rats ass who the gov't gives bonuses to, the US is in a recession, halliburton was CAUGHT overcharging the taxpayers, the gov't is suspossed to be BY THE FUCKING PEOPLE FOR THE FUCKING PEOPLE, do you think taxpayers struggling to get food on the table would have approved a FUCKING 72 MILLION DOLLAR bonus to the same company that was caught stealing form us??? do you ever think?
     
  19. pissedoffsol

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    but it HAS happened. you quoted it.

    He got a deffered payment. meaning 5 years from 2000 is 2005. and now he/bush give his old company a big bonus... and thus, he gets paid even more.

    It's the same reason we went to iraq--- money.
    do you honestly think we give a shit about the iraqui people? no. we care about their oil.
    if iraq was antartica, i guarnatee we would not be there throwing snowballs at the skinnies.
     
  20. totalburnout

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    No Brian, read again. I even bolded it for you both. Its fixed. His income is fixed. As I pointed out after recked stopped reading when he saw all that he wanted, he is still receiving money from the company but its been fixed since 1999...meaning its not going to chance. He has an insurance policy that guarantees him that money, meaning it won't hurt him one bit finnacially if the company goes to ruins. He's getting the same coin now with the 72 million dollar bonus as he did before it.


    As for going to war simply for money, do you think I'm going to deny this? Are you that ignorant to believe that every war wasn't based on economic gain? Why else would we fight over land? We're materialistic beings and always have been. Long before this country was founded people waged war for land which equated to money.

    You're silly if you don't believe that this war is any different from any other. We didn't care that the Nazis were killing 6 million jews until we got attacked, until we incurred economic losses and until they threatened our economic ties to allies.

    I will say this however, I certainly don't believe that even though we're there for money we're not also there on ethic grounds.
     
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