Do I choose to pay auto insurance? Do I choose to pay unemployment insurance? Social security? Did I choose to buy all those financial institutions bad debt during the bailout? Will I be able to choose whether to buy Obama care? These are all products that we are forced to purchase, products that those in power are profiting from, and we DON'T have a choice. Get it?
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Do I choose to pay auto insurance? Do I choose to pay unemployment insurance? Social security? Did I choose to buy all those financial institutions bad debt during the bailout? Will I be able to choose whether to buy Obama care? These are all products that we are forced to purchase, products that those in power are profiting from, and we DON'T have a choice. Get it?
See above.
That's such defeatist bullshit. No one should work to improve society? We should just accept the status quo because third world countries have it worse? How many times do I have to point out your Stockholm syndrome? It's your patriotic duty to demand your liberty, fair treatment, pursuit of happiness. Everything you compromise based on somalian standards of living just fucks over the next generation. I'm sorry but you are dumb. You are so dumb, you are really dumb.
I don't want distribution of other people's money, I want the freedom to choose how mine is spent. I thought that's what capitalism was all about. Guess I was wrong.
Actually yes you do choose to pay auto insurance. Did you know you can leave a deposit with the DMV which can exempt you from getting auto insruance? I'm assuming you didn't.
Now you're getting somewhere, the rest of these are government businesses, not wall street. This is what people are lacking in understanding. Yet they want the government to create more bureaucracy, more waste, to fuck up more shit and waste more of our money.
Get it?
BTW, that bailout money was repaid
Do you know how much that deposit is? Only people with a certain amount of money get to choose? It's not a choice because I don't have that money. That's like saying a homeless person could choose to drive a Ferrari if they had enough money.
You just said government businesses without blinking an eye. My fucking head is about to explode. Repaid? I didn't get any back. Who got repaid? Did you get repaid?
Guess who got paid whom otherwise would be bankrupt from making shitty decisions: wall street executives.
Exactly.
Since when are my tax dollars supposed to be used as insurance so that greedy investors can destroy the economy and not just get away with it, but make millions of dollars of personal income in the process? Oh, but eventually the same govt cronies who broed out their investor friends got it back. And spent it on... more crony no contract under the table bullshit theft.
They drove the economy into the shitter and walked away with taxpayer dollars that they don't deserve. You are at the bottom of a pyramid scheme and loving every minute of it.
They drove the economy into the shitter and walked away with taxpayer dollars that they don't deserve. You are at the bottom of a pyramid scheme and loving every minute of it.
You sure like to assume a lot sitting high and mighty on your soap box. You might want to consider hibernating inside your igloo instead.
Don't assume I love every minute of this Crony Capitalism we have going on in the US. The banks should have failed. The market would have weeded out the bad. We always seem to have Capital gains and Socialized losses. The market has never really had a chance to go through its normal process because Govt thinks they need to step in and save it.
I can't tell if you're a libertarian, socialist or anarchist. You're all over the fucking map. Are you off your meds?
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...has a job!
It is still cool but those girls have enough economic sense to understand the value of a service. They also have much better work ethic(s) than these pacifist cunts do. There's no way you'd find a decent stripper at the OWS protest. She's knows what her snizz is worth and is willing to earn them $1s...
If that's what you got then I misspoke. I'm not saying I agree with the bailout of failed entities. I don't. I am a true capitalist. I wanted certain banks to fail. They leveraged their selves too much and people should have learned from it. I don't agree with back room dealing, but I see it as an unavoidable evil. A great capitalist society will be greedy. By that I mean they will crave more and push forward. And that greed spawns the need to test the rules. See which ones bend and which ones break. Capitalism by nature pushes the limits. True capitalism allows those who pushed to far to fail in a blaze of glory.
I am a libertarian as well. I believe I have certain rights that even the government can't take from me. I don't compromise certain things. I just look to the bigger picture. I'm happy, healthy, and have the ability to pursue nearly any avenue I want to. Would I like a say in where my money is going? Fuck yea. But I'm not going to stop the forward progress of my life to protest about it. Would I like to opt out of social security, disability, unemployment, and all taxes and be left to my own devices? Sure would. But I'm not going to me a miserable prick every day because I don't have that choice yet.
As far as improving society, stop worrying about the misdealing of a few 1%ers and help out the bottom of the barrel. Volunteer at a shelter. Donate food. Preserve life before you talk about improving it. Don't think that's a worthy cause? Adopt a Somali kid like Angelina. What I'm saying is, there are greater tragedies in this country than a couple of suited up thieves.
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And it's apathy that allows it to perpetuate. It's not just a couple suited up thieves, it's a network of bankers, board members, lobbyists, and career politicians who all scratch each others backs on wealth that's forcibly extracted from lower classes. It's not an unavoidable aspect of capitalism it's a product of the lower classes ignorance and apathy. You don't have to be a miserable prick to demand fair treatment and an uncompromising end to crony capitalism. You act like people who protest are miserable all the time. I have a great life and an awesome family, which is why I want to improve our system so that instead of my kid inheriting everything we fucked up, she'll actually have a better life and more opportunities than I did. How about instead of pushing the boundaries of greed, we push the boundaries of fairness and equity, push the boundaries of personal accountability by eliminating social capitalism. Push the boundaries of self reliance to the bleeding edge, because that is where social Darwinism can thrive and we can actually progress as a species.
Klyph,
I think part of your issue is you make too many assumptions about people. I think everyone who supports Capitalism despises Crony Capitalism.
We make fun of the protesters because they don't have a common cause. It is a fucking free for all. I've been to occupy oakland. You see shit like stop police brutality, justice for oscar grant, bailout my student loans. Occupy has turned into protest whatever the fuck you want. It is stupid.
I think part of your issue is you make too many assumptions about people. I think everyone who supports Capitalism despises Crony Capitalism.
We make fun of the protesters because they don't have a common cause. It is a fucking free for all. I've been to occupy oakland. You see shit like stop police brutality, justice for oscar grant, bailout my student loans. Occupy has turned into protest whatever the fuck you want. It is stupid.
That's not true social Darwinism. Despite the many examples of people who work their way up, most people in those positions were born into higher social classes where there was already a system of wealth extraction that's been building for generations.
Yes the occupy movement does have a ton of retards. But consider the fact that most of the reporting is on the NY and CA groups, it makes sense.
high unemployment rates leads to civil unrest
people are up for causes and protesting
they aren't up in arms ... yet...
the basic fact of the matter is that the system is too corrupt to be fixed
all that will come of this is a nice pony show and switching people around in elected positions and the same exact thing plods along, and the rich get richer at the expense of the minions
1 corrupt individual destroys the trust for the whole entity
a great example would be Arthur Anderson, one of the biggest accounting firms in the country, and i imagine the world
all it took was one guy's office fucking up the enron books to destroy the whole firm
the big wigs got paid and the little people got fucked, and the firm had to disappear because their reputation was tarnished
1 bad apple is all it takes
there always has been a "high class" in society through out history who derived their power and wealth from the poorer people around them who were there to serve them
its just a fact, that's how it works, that's how it always has worked, and that's how it will continue to work, history is just a big repeating show that goes round and round
people are up for causes and protesting
they aren't up in arms ... yet...
the basic fact of the matter is that the system is too corrupt to be fixed
all that will come of this is a nice pony show and switching people around in elected positions and the same exact thing plods along, and the rich get richer at the expense of the minions
1 corrupt individual destroys the trust for the whole entity
a great example would be Arthur Anderson, one of the biggest accounting firms in the country, and i imagine the world
all it took was one guy's office fucking up the enron books to destroy the whole firm
the big wigs got paid and the little people got fucked, and the firm had to disappear because their reputation was tarnished
1 bad apple is all it takes
there always has been a "high class" in society through out history who derived their power and wealth from the poorer people around them who were there to serve them
its just a fact, that's how it works, that's how it always has worked, and that's how it will continue to work, history is just a big repeating show that goes round and round
