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Thoughts on Tire selection

Discussion in 'Wheels / Suspension / Tires / Brakes' started by CRX-YEM, Jan 22, 2004.

  1. CRX-YEM

    CRX-YEM Super Moderator Moderator VIP

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    well I have a set of Kumho 712's on my car and I like them they seem to perform fine for me, but most people I speak with hate them with a passion and think they are completely crap.

    so I was looking at Falken Tires
    what are your thoughts on

    Falken: ZIEX ZE-512 vs. Azenis Sport
    Falken: ZIEX ZE-512 vs. Kumho 712's

    I already know what poeple think about
    Falken: Azenis Sport vs. Kumho 712's

    so what are your thought's regarding the ZIEX tire
    do you think it will be a better performer than the kumho ??
     
  2. radnulb

    radnulb Senior Member

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    I've had Ziex on my CRX and have nothing positive to say about them.
    They wore out fast, even on a car with relatively neutral camber.
    They didn't grip worth a shit when roads were wet, and were very unpredictable compared to both Yoko AVS-i AND Falken Azenis! I would go as far as to say I felt more comfortable in wet weather (but not ice/snow) in Azenis than Ziex.
    They have decent dry road grip, but nothing compared to either the AVS-i or the Azenis.

    My 2 cents - take it for what its worth. I'm still sad the AVS intermediate is no longer around. :(
     
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    I have ZIEX's and am not really impressed. AZENIS are far superior as far as I know. My ziex's do OK for my sub par suspension setup at the moment, but I'd def go for the AZENIS over them.
     
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    Well you guys with the Azenis......how do those tires hold up in the rain?

    I am not trying to be a thread jacker but I was wonder about the same comparisions.
     
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    yoko's parada spec 2 grabs pretty good, so does nitto's new Neo Gen. but i highly recommend Toyo Proxes
     
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    azenis are fine in the rain. i drive as fast on the highway in either condition.

    my only complaint with the azenis is that they seem to go out of round rather easily. i locked up the rear tires on one occasion and after i rotated my tires, i got a slight wobble in the steering wheel.
     
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    while i've never driven the Ziex's... they are lower in the line, even according to falken. the Azenis is their flagship tire.

    I can't speak highly enough about them. Hands down, best tire i've used.

    I used to have a set of the intermediates- great tire. but i still think the azenis out performs it.

    rain... yeah, they aren't rain slicks. they are dry performance tires. but if you aren't a fucking moron, you will have no problem doing the speed limit on the highway in the rain on azenis.

    712's... you know how i feel about those. POS's lol

    had spec'2s on my volks.. average tire. nothing special.

    also had pirelli pzero asymitriclas on the vokls... also a great tire, but 140 treadware had them dead in 2 months.

    had prozes fz4's on my 17's. by far, the worst tire i've ever owned... even worse than my master craft snow tires. horrid. i cna't beleive yous ay they are good. they suck. horribly. Hell, I'd take 232132 sets of khumos over them. lol they're that bad.

    out of round on the azenis? i never had that problem... neither did bill after i sold my wheels to him. they lasted a full season + of hard driving, autox'es, and so on, and sticky as hell.

    i will be running a 225/50 BFG drag radial on the front this year... but my rears, are still going to be 205/50 azenis. until someone makes a better tire, they will always be on my car.
     
  8. CRX-YEM

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    I like you review B.
    but would you buy a set of Ziex and try them to see how they perfom compare to the kumho ?? or are you saying don't bother and save my pennies for the azenis ??
     
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    azenis are cheap dude. they are only 65 bucks a tire... the ziex are like 55... 10 bucks a tire sin't worth it to me...
     
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    I was not aware that azenis were only $65 a tire.
     
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    Azenis all the way. I will never buy a different summer tire for a honda than those.
     
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    i use them as all season tire, lol... doesn't rain too much in CA and they do ok in the rain. i love them for the track too, best grip of any street tire i've used thus far.
     
  13. CRX-YEM

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    see when you live in CT you can't use them all year round. ask Jeef what happens in snow
     
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    In defense of teh 712 and 711... They're good intermediate tires. They're great in the rain, they're quiet, and behave wonderfully at the limit- they'll make a ton of noise before they break free, and when they do, they do so in a very linear fashion. This makes 'em VERY easy to drive at the limit. And they're cheap. However, they are definetly NOT a race- winning tire. But for someone that drives a lot and hits the curves on a whim once in a while, you can't beat 'em.
     
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    im pretty sure i have the zeix cant remember but in weather where theres a little ran around the ground i had them slipe on me going around a corner at like 70kmh, kinda scary but i think im going to go with azenis was thinking about some nittos not sure never ran anything then what i have


    LOco can i be apart of your race team? lol
    i have a rickety ride
     
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    I was reading the ratings on tirerack.com and the avs es 100 yoks are rated higher than the kuhmos. Anybody here use them?
     
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    yeah, AVS 100s are really nice, they are only i step below the AVS sports, which are about the ultimate NON-Rcompund street tire.

    i havent ridden with azenis, but AVS 100's are far superior to 712s, but they are NOT a wet tire. at all. almost as bad as spec-2s
     
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    I was just wondering what you guys think about toyo T1s. Any comments about it?
     
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    i still would take an azenis over a t1s. its half the cost, double the wear, and IMO, rides and holds better
     
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