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Discussion in 'Forced Induction' started by Cashizslick, Apr 4, 2004.

  1. Cashizslick

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    Ok, whats the deal with Greddy's E-Manage software? I was looking at their website and i do know it is a piggyback controller that can perform a wide variety of functions. I am wondering if the unit is universal or if it is Vehicle specific and i am also wondering if it comes with any type of ignition control device to cut back spark and prevent detonation.

    If you dont know, i am planning on turboing my B16 using the Greddy turbo kit for the 99SI, and i want to use E-manage if it will work since it comes with the kit (i can have it taken out, but im getting it at cost from a distributor).
     
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    e-manage is an over-glorified VAFC.

    its the same price as hondata. i don't know why you are even considering it.
     
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    Im considering it because if i buy the 00SI kit it comes with it (and i get the 00si kit at cost).

    So, the software is not ECU or OBD specific?

    - thanks b
     
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    emanage is not the blue box.

    emanage is a vafc with some half-assed timing controls.


    the apex'i is good for +/- 35% at every 500 rpm increments.

    more cost-- for the price of this, you could add datalogging or the rom editor to hondata

    Hondata:
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    Hondata expands the factory table size to allow additional columns for boost. Typically the factory 20 x 10 tables are expanded to 20 x 16 cells for the low cam and 24 by 16 cells. This provides 704 tuning positions, more than most replacement ECUs.
    so, emange takes a 20x10 and makes it a 16x16. oooooooooooooook...................


    so, to me, unless you're running 8 injectors, it's useless.
     
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    The bigest problem is that it only supports 30% over stock injector handleing.... which means 370 cc is the largest injector you're going to be able to run with the POS. i know all motor guys running bigger injectors than that. i have 750's in my ride.

    some reading

    http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=716835
    http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=566257

    you're obviously set on getting it, so just get the damn thing already.

    and 1 more thing- fuck stupid street.
    they wouldn't know their ass from a vtec solenoid if the blow off valve hit them in the eye
     
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    Fuck any publication in general. If you know anything about your car, you will see the advice they give is retarded. In reply to a kid asking if he could drop in an accord V6 motor into his 92-96 Prelude, they replied...

    "You should swap in a JDM H22a with a Jackson Racing Supercharger. It's easier, it'll blow the doors off the V6 and it's cooler to boot."

    I challenge them to find 92-96 preludes with a JRSC in it. It's so much fabrication that they'd be better of with h23/VTEC. I doubt there are more than 20 Preludes of that generation in the WORLD that have that setup. Why pay that much when you could turbo?

    *Anyway*
    If you are going to go with the Profec sytem, whatever. You're getting it *at cost*. I'd sell it on Ebay and buy a good p28 Hondata system.
     
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    No, im not set on getting it, im just totally confused as to what it does - i keep getting mixed responses.

    Ill stick with the tried/true AFC hack or Hondata.
     
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    the afc hack is FAR from tried and true. It's dubbed the hack for a reason.... it's a hack job.... ghetto engineering. I personally know liam- the dude who "stumbled" upon it. he was running an fmu with larger injectors, missing link, and a vafc to tone down the larger injectors.
    it was running like crap, so at a gas station, he put it into :hack mode: and was pleased with the reults.
    over an fmu, yeah, its better at supplying MORE fuel due to the fact that it uses larger injectors. but, its notorious for part-throttle boggieness and hesiatations, and still doesn't even touch timing- a HUGE factor in boosted cars.
    if you can afford it, don't even think about going with anything less than hondata. seriously.
    you'll make more power, get better gas mileage, be safer, and not smell like gas all the time from runing uber rich.
     
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    hmm I thought e-manage was the glorified name of the blue box. Thats what I get for not paying attention for 4 months.
     
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    so this isn't a good deal?
     
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    make your own judgements dude. i'm not here to hold your hand.... jsut to help make you make the right decision.

    for a small kit- like the greddy kit- the emanage is a cool thing to have.
    but if you're going to be running a serious kit with serious power, you need serious tuning and fuel control
     
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    No, i agree.

    I just wanted to get opinions and what not so i buy the right stuff for my and my setup. thanks
     
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