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Discussion in 'Forced Induction' started by stedscivic, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. stedscivic

    stedscivic Senior Member

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    94 civic ex coupe
    JDM b18c
    full interior 17 inch rims system

    would this set up be good to reach 13 second 1/4 mile
    should be somewhere around 250 to reach 13s right?

    Turbo: SC-6031E with .63 A/R ratio turbo
    Manifold: t3 b-series 4 bolt
    Injectors: RC Engineering 550 cc injectors
    Fuel Pump: walbro 255lph pump
    Intercooler: PWR Intercooler 2078287 20" x 7.8" x 2.87"

    still deciding on the following any suggestions would be awesome
    wastegate
    blow off valve
    wideband 02 sensor
    Hondata s200 with boost option
    3" exhaust

    anything else i might have missed

    just curious
    what would a small shot of nitrous do with this set up?


    thanks
     
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    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    that setup will put you well beyond 250 if you want to go there.

    honeslty, the limiting factor in your setup is your 17's with no traction. a 205/40/17 tire will just burn the hell off before you go forward. no sidewall flex at all.

    get some 15s
     
  3. 92civicb18b1

    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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    :werd: get some new wheels and slicks.

    You don't have to keep them on all the time (which wouldn't be a wise choice anyway).

    Keep the 17s for the street.

    When you go to the track loose the system, at least whatever you can take out..

    You can make 300 pretty easily with that setup or to whatever the injectors max out too.
     
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    stedscivic Senior Member

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    Turbo: SC-6031E with .63 A/R ratio turbo
    Manifold: t3 b-series 4 bolt
    Injectors: RC Engineering 550 cc injectors
    Fuel Pump: walbro 255lph pump
    Intercooler: PWR Intercooler 2078287 20" x 7.8" x 2.87"

    so all this is ok to go beyond my goals (13 sec. 250whp) which is fine with me
    what about the rest of the set up? need help on getting the rest of this figured out so i can get started.

    wastegate
    blow off valve
    wideband 02 sensor
    Hondata s200 with boost option and tuned by a hondata mechanic
    3" exhaust, take to muffler shop and have them go 3" no cat all the way back to what muffler?

    notice anything else that i might have missed?
    and what would a small shot of nitrous if i would add that to the turbo set up?
     
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    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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    delta or tial wastegate

    most BOV's are sufficient enough. 300 hp almost all should be fine

    PLX m300

    fuck hondata, get uberdata

    ES oval with Kteller piping

    you don't need nitrous, you should be plenty happy with that.
     
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    stedscivic Senior Member

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    whats the reason for uberdata over hondata?

    and the 3" tubing for exhaust, what else do i need flanges, wastegate flange, should i get a 2.5"-3" high flow cat? what size flex pipe?
     
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    Uberdata is free, hondata costs a pretty penny, i would agree, b18c turbo, u should go 3".
     
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    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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    you can pay the premium for Hondata, but essentially all the systems do the same thing.

    I think Kteller sells it with the flanges, if your going to make it yourself. The I would use 5 flanges all together. 1 for the cat, 2 for the midpipe (so they mate), and 2 for the midpipe to muffler pipe (so they mate).

    I would go 3" from the turbo back but I'm using 2.5 DP to 3" Flex back down to 2.5" exhaust.
     
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    this is what im thinking
    reliable, cheap, fast you can only choose 2 (so Im told) and if uberdata is free then its cheap right?
    so i have to do away with fast or reliable and i dont want to do that.

    i know uberdata is talked highly about by lots of tuners on here, but is it worth it to spend the money and get hondata

    i want reliable and fast so i dont mind spending the money if hondata is worth it
    why is uberdata free and hondata so expensive? there must be a reason.

    im thinking the tial 38wastegate seem right for this set up, but what size bar for the wastgate?

    and what size blowoff valve since there are like a million of them?
     
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    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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    I have all three.

    Cheap (i spent like 1k...ok maybe 1200)

    Fast (good enough for me)

    Reliable (we'll find out)

    Uberdata is not considered cheap IMO. It good to use when you don't have a retarded amount of money to spend and compares to hondata like butter and margarine. Hondata being high in cholestoral yet good (butter), then uberdata being margarine, less cholestoral yet tastes the same. Good analogy, huh?
     
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    very good analogy
     
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    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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    38 mm wastegate would be perfect. Depending on what turbo you decide to use a 8-10 psi spring is a good start.

    As for the BOV size, most aftermarket ones will be fine. I personally am using a cheap ass one that I got for free with my HKS BOV from my last setup.
     
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    almost got everything figured out


    BOV:
    greddy type s?
    or
    hks ssqv?

    are either one of these a good choice?
     
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    no no no no no!! anything but deltagate.

    tial > *
     
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    again, Tial 50mm.


    Tial > *
     
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    Whats wrong with Deltagate?
    My buddie has it on his 79 toyota and hes running good #'s...Whats the difference between the two?
     
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    I had hondata.

    i won't own it again.

    and not even for the cost part of it. sitting there trying to get the unit to connect is such a pain in the ass. it sucks.

    i'm going to be running chrome pro on my all motor hatch. chrome is also free. chrome pro isn't, but it has some features i want.

    having seen uberdata, and played with it a little bit, it can do eerything that hondata can- for the most part- its just setup a little different, and its not as clean of an interface. but you don't have to deal with that stupid hondata box.
     
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    deltagates fucking suck.
    their diaphrams break all the time, and they are know for boost spikes.
     
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    so what all will i need to get the uberdata running?
     
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    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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