Discussion in 'ECU's, Electronics, and Tuning' started by tomtom, Nov 18, 2004.
I always like hearing good things about uberdata.
nice- but he mentions nothing other than 91 octane and uberdata.
quite frankly, 227 out of a built ls/vtec is nothing impressive.
Nor is a 170 hp B20 VTEC...
b16 with head work
supertech daul valve springs and retainers
wicked intake manifold
wicked stage 2 camshaft
64mm throttle body
intake manifold and tb port match
skunk cam gears( set at I-2/E-2) didn t even have time to adjust!!!
85mm bore/RS sleeved
4.7 fd jdm type r tranny
act hdpp w/ 6 puck
rc 370cc injectors
b&m regulator set to 38psi@idle
aem fuel rail
walbro 255lph pump
compression of motor is 12.8-1 or alittle higher maybe 13.0-1
baseline 201 whp after 1.5hrs of tuneing on a dyno jet it made 227 and 151
on 91 octane
200whp is really hard to make almotor
check this link u will see how many really make 200
the point was it baseline 161whp
after tuneing with uberdata it made 170whp
you could easily pick up 10 hp with a vafc.
I'm not dissing uberdata at all- i just don't think this is a very good example
EDIT: My bad I thought that had a turbo on it when I first glanced at it. I didn't know people were still doing all motor.
Im gonna have to agree with Bitchasssol. I mean pissedoffsol
Sorry fool i just woke up and it poped in my head when i was typing.
But yeah i guess i should have said i like to hear when people have a good experience with uber or turbo edit ETC. ETC.
so ur saying tuneing a lsvtec with over 12.8-1 compression and makeing it
run smooth on 91 octane
is not a good example?
and that a vafc would have been better?
how r u going to control timing then?
Tuning isint magic, though some times and to some people it may seem that way.
Im sure more can be gained, he didnt even mention how much time was spent on geting that 9hp not to mention theres no TQ specs or Dyno of the powerband, so there IS alot to be desired here especialy befor some one should go on proclaiming about something that was already pointed out.
Twice in one week
i m just trying to share info
but if u guys think u know it all than good 4 u.
but a person that really spend the time and money on an almotor setup knows
how hard it is to gain 9whp
I do not understand why you are always shitting on other peoples cars when you never seem to be able to get any of your own projects running, let alone making 227 WHP. *shrug* I think it is pretty good considering the shitty 91 octane fuel.
LOL fuck you fool thats all we got out here in cali
And i like him shairing the info, but i will say this, B runs this site with as best a discresion as he can for a sole owner of it, you can only be so fair with your own proprty, though this place is more then just his any more and i think he knows that and runs this place as good a person could with all the shit that is said. Basicly thats^ why your gonna get away with that comment.
With that said i agree with you 100%
he wasn't shitting on anyone's car...he was just being honest
LOL thats true too.
I really did like this part though
without charts I call BS on everything in that post REGARDLESS
but I don't care what B says...227whp on a ls/vtec is impressive
LOL so now we have every agnle of ass hat issim, i believe him. Notice on that other forum he states an 85mm bore.
how would you gain more hp by tuning with an afc? uberdata owns an afc, whoever was doing the tuning, wasn't very good or could have gained a lot more power. how could tuning with an afc that only tunes fuel at a certain rpm have an advantage over a program that tunes at any given rpm at any given pressure? say you want to take away just 1% fuel at 5700 rpms, but only at 10 in/HG, how you gonna pull that one off with an afc??? say you took that fuel out, and want to take .25Â° of timing out at the same spot, again, how you gonna manage that with an afc??? there is no need for an afc at all if you're capable of utilizing uberdata to it's fullest potential.
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