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V4 Features update and suggestions

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by pissedoffsol, Jan 23, 2004.

  1. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    Gallery- what do you like, what do you hate?

    In the works for V4, i'm totally re-doing the gallery structure, file system, and all that. At some point, i will be blowing out the entire directory of pics and albums. I know this is a pain, but at the same time, it clears out about 800MB of shit. I will post a notice at least a couple days ahead of time to save any pics to your machine or forever hold your peace.

    What do you like about it?
    What do you hate about it?
    What would you like to see added? taken away?

    In the works already is:
    • multiple delete instead of 1-at-a-time that it is now
    • folder structure, based on your user ID. instead of all the images in one big unorganized mess, each user ID will dynamically have a folder written with their ID number.. me, for example, would be hs.com/gallery/1/. I wanted to have it be the user name instead of user ID, but too many folks have weird shit like dashes and other illegal characters in their user name, which would just make the directory a mess (url's converted weird chars to ascii codes.. ie a space is rendered as %20. so "honda number1" would have a gay folder like /honda%20number1/. From that point, each album you have will be another directory.. for example, hs.com/gallery/1/pissedoffgarage. Now, again, we run into the weird character thing... I need to run some more algorythms in my head on this.
    • Multiple upload. again, 1 at a time sucks. I'll probably have a limit of 5 or 10 at a time. 56k users, should still do 1 at a time... as it takes a couple seconds a picture to upload to the server... and your connection speed depends on that... then the server does it's thing, and all that. At the same time, this makes for easyier abuse. now, it takes an hour to upload 100 pics to the gallery... lol i made it that way on purpose... but with easier uploads.. comes... limits.
    • Limits. Sice I pay for the webspace, and we're only getting bigger, there needs to be some sort of control.
      • First, to prevent spaming, i'm going to require 25 posts. Again, it will be totally automated. It simply won't let you upload or make an album if you don't have at least 25 posts. It's not hard to hit 25 posts... and in fact, i considered making it 50, till i realized that less than 1/4th of the membership has more posts that that. Kinda sad, but still...
      • 2MB limit. there will be un-limited albums, pics, etc.. but you will be limited in your /user_id/ directory to 2MB. Therefore, asshats who want to upload lifesize picstures, can, but you're not going to get many on there. My 2MP camera in 640x480 takes pics at an average of 60-65KB each. That's roughly 35 full size camera pics. The gallery script also has a 75% jpg render engine, which reduces clearity by 1/4th, and thus, a slightly lower file size. Therefore, 40-50 pics should be able to be stored at any one time in the gallery for free. If you start runing out of space, deleting pics, lowers your directory size.
      • 2MB not enough? Space costs money. With 1000 members, at 2MB a pop.. well, you do the math. I'm going to have to buy more space at some point, and its not cheap to do so. With space, comes more traffic, which means more bandwidth. I'm working on a paypal IPN, again, automated. I'm thinking $5-$10 1-time fee to upgrade your account to 7MB (a 5MB gain). You will fill out a form, it goes to paypal, you pay, it sends info back to our database, and your account is perminatly upgraded to the higher status. Mods and Admins will get this service free from the get-go. <legal>There will be no refunds, etc, if you are banned, hs crashes and we never post here again, or for any other reason </legal>
        If you dont have paypal, your shit out of luck. I don't take credit cards, and I'm not dealing with the hassel of checks.
    • The layout will be totally reworked as well. I'm considering doing something kinda like imagesation... with next/previous links and so forth, as well as a full album view. Not quite sure on all that as of yet... again, this is barely in pre-alpha right now.
    So after that, what else would you like to see done?

    Tech/Swap Articles and the Reference Section

    These have all been moved to a top secret place already :) Basically, I created a new forum category. This means, they are searchable now via the search form for the forums. Plus, its much cleaner, easier to edit, and any mod can fix something just like they could a post with the edit button.
    Those will go live once v4 launches. until then, they are hiding, and the old stuff will be active.

    Content- there hasn't been much new shit lately... and its not just my fault, well, yeah okk it is.. :) I've got tons of write ups I'm going to get to eventually... and If anyone else would like to contribute to it, it wil be more than welcome.

    I'm toying with the idea of adding a new user group- Contributors or something to that extend, which will give certain select people posting permissions in the article forums. Otherwise, they will be read-only.

    With this, the FAQ will be closing for technical reference. All the tech shit in there is going to be moved to the articles section. The FAQ will be for, well, FAQ. how to use the gallery, why can't i be a mod, and all that non-car related babble.

    Forums

    I half-way created a new template. the lite blue is getting tossed for a dark blue/grey/white theme. I need to come up with an image pak for this as well.
    In addition, the rest of the site will carry the same design. I hate that green shit that the rest of the site is now.

    Home Page Portal

    The home page is getting totaly re-worked as well. I'm trying to set up RSS feeds from the articles section for RSS and XML readers. I am also trying to setup a Syndication algorithym, which will allow any of you folks to place a section on your own website from our content. it will be a simple code, liek a counter code, that you could simply copy/paste onto your homepage or wheverever you think it would be cool to get, for instance, the last 10 posts, the last couple articles, or what have you.

    The homepage is also going to be more images and more layout. All the while, it will be clean, table-less modularized xhtml 1.1/css derrived, and will be readable on cell phones, pda's, handhelds, netscape 2, or your latest up to date browser. I want it to be totally accessible. I'd like to convert the forums to that as well... but they are half way through V2.0 which is going to be a total waste of my time if i start that now, and upgrade to more legacy code two months later.

    Home page will be featuring the featured ride of the month- recent article quickies, and recent posts kinda like it does now, only 342 times better. http://overboost.com/ is a good example of the "style" the site will have has far as the article content goes. Qwuick icon, a link, date, and blah.. Only, it won't be gay, slow, nor charge you to read shit.

    More Stuff

    What else... well, what else do you want? what do you think would be an asset to this community? Got an idea? if its good, feasable, and im capable of programming it, it will be considered.

    So lets hear it.

    HONDASWAP- the only place where the member opinion counts. you won't find this anywhere else. :wub:
     
  2. TurboMirage

    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    id jump the post count for the gallery to 50. why? fucktards that want free hosting. if they are going to use hondaswap to host pictures, they might as well contribute to the community right?

    also, if you do the user fee for the extra gallery space - what if you decide the change the staff again and one of the ex-mod/admins have more than the allotted 2mb?

    my 2 cents...
     
  3. pissedoffsol

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    well, im hoping we don't have to get rid of mods ever again... i dunno. never thought about that
     
  4. hybrid89

    hybrid89 thistownsucks...

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    I'm w/ turbomirage on the 50 post. Lets be honest, most the people on hear come from god knows where and get on for a couple of posts, leave their stench and are never heard of again. Things like free picture hosting is a privelage, not a right! The people on hear that I consider "regulars" are here for the reason that this probably all started. Just peeps that are into the same shit and want to shoot the shit, help each other, gain knowledge, and foremost, learn how to make a better performing vehicle no matter what the end use.

    I also agree with the contribution of $$$ for extra space/maintenance. I would and will send a liitle cash to B for all his work. I commend him on what he has done. I know trhat I am not any sort of veteran round hear, but I've been coming to this site for the last year and have gained considerable knowledge and aquired realtionships w/ others. $5-10 bucks for that is a small amount for things like that.

    Lastly, I think there should be some sort of "shadetree" mecahnic forum or such, where say people could submit write ups on certain installs, w/ pics and I'm not talking putting gaytezza's in your civic! I"m saying like an article a week/month written buy a member/members on How-To shit for your ride(claying a motor for clearences, or big brake upgrade or such). Hell, I'd be down for writing a few. other than that sounds pretty good.

    just my opinion

    matt
     
  5. B16

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    i like the changes you've listed so far, especially for the gallery.
    about the 50 < post count for uplaoding images, how many users in there now have pictures in the gallery that never post?
     
  6. pissedoffsol

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    none. i deleted them the other day... and cleared out about 225 mb of shit.

    with no limits, it makes us all slack on keeping the shit clean. that one funny pic that you posted, is a dead thread 3 days later.... toss it. but with no limits, it just hangs out.

    so, 50 sounds better?

    I know not everyone here posts as much as i do... and it may take a "reader" a good 4 months to hit 50 posts... and well, may just induce whoring. there needs to be a fine line, ya know?
     
  7. TurboMirage

    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    could you make a script to clear out the member galleries if they havent logged on in a month?
     
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    PERMANENTLY



    /pet peeve nothing personal
     
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    sounds like it would be pimp.
     
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    i agree with the 50 post minimum. and articles with pictures would be nice from now on too so people can also have a visual
     
  11. swanny

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    My ideas might be far-fetched\imossible but here I go:
    Template for the For Sale forums, making it necessary for Location, price etc.
    25 post minimum to post in the members corner.
    And I also agree that there should be a place to submit how to's with pictures and write ups.
     
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    the 50 post thing seems like it may lead to alot of post whoring....but then again in might help out in some other ways, iv never used the gallery to host pics but i might start...
     
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    I dunno about the 25 post minimum to post in the members corner. What if people only come for the tech, and have looked into the drama and bad mouthing that has gone on and want no part of it....As we all know it is all harmless babbling...

    I'm with everyone who thinks the 50 post thing will lead to whoring. There is a reason why people arn't posting, maybe they just want to read what other people have posted rather than ask the same quesion over and over again....(Hey, it could happen..)

    So it basicaly comes down to, trust b....he knows the way...I mean, look how far he got the site....it looks/runs GREAT, but it is you guys that make it fun....Now lets get back to some more babbling...
     
  14. Smonkeyboy

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    i like the sound of 25+ posts for members lounge.
    and 50+ posts for gallery access.


    my suggestions.
    1. In the main gallery page, perhaps an updated search feature, so you could search for Galleries my member names.

    2. A tab to the gallery on the MainPage not just the board.

    3. Perhaps a cap on the amount of gallery space ever member has, if there isnt already one, and a cap on individual pic sieze, to elimimnate life sized pics.

    just my .02

    other than that all the proposed changes sound really nice.
     
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    50 is alot for some people.I think it will promote whoring. but 50 would be a good way to determine if you even want the guy here. if he starts whoring and then oncec he gets to 25 or 50 he uploads a buttload of pics he prolly isnt going to add alot to the site. information wise.
     
  16. GSRCRXsi

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    i like the ideas thus far. im divided on the post count thing though. i think 50 will be good. the people that post whore will post whore anyway, people that will participate in HS will have more then 50 posts.

    and what about that intro you had up a while ago. IMO it was badass, but other people could think it was annoying, so its up to you, personally i liked it, gave the site a real performance feel from the minute you open the site.
     
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    i also believe u should do something with the quality of posts.....

    i could go and get 30 posts right now by randomly putting a emoticon in any random thread just to get extra post count
     
  18. asmallsol

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    new forum for the articles if we have get a lot more. Basicly the guidelines would be "This forum is for questions/comments regarding articles and write ups"

    B, for I will be summiting a few articles from semi difficult to extremly easy, yet we still have posts about them which will include
    -replacing axles
    -replaceing brakes
    -Bleeding brakes
    -Bleeding clutch
    -Flushing coolant/replacing thermostat

    For the articles, we should have an article submission thing.

    The 2 gripes that I had with the gallery sound like they will be solved (multiple delete thing, and the muptiple uploads)
     
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    Loco Honkey Banned

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    B should buy a female escort for the 2,000,000th visitor. And if that person is a girl, B should buy her a bi female escort and tell me where they're going to be. :D
     
  20. pissedoffsol

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    no, you all should buy me one =)
     
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