Do any programmers absolutely hate the fact that the scroll wheel on the mouse is not functional in Visual Basic? I am sure I am asking the wrong crowd, but just thought I'd rant about it. Stupid freaking microsoft. I am also perturbed at the fact that pi is not defined as a variable, function or anything in VB, you have declare it everytime you write new code...grrr... It's always the little things that get to you.