these are what i'm torn between right now... what i want- AWD is a plus. 240 + snow = bad. and the main goal of the car is to keep it stock or near stock- and be HAPPY with its performance. my buddy has an evo, and i drove it.. not bad. the pep would be enough for me to aily drive. I don't like the gas to brake pedal clearence though... i wear size 12 shoes... and well, it was a pain getting my foot in there. seats hold me REAL well. love them. i want them in my honda. sti, 330, and s4, i haven't driven yet, but since they both have similar/more power than the evo, i think i'll be happy with its performance. i don't think i'd ever be able to test drive an r33. lol im looking to spend 25-35k tops i think. a couple years used is perfectly fine by me. mike said, r33... and while yeah thegts-t us-speced is in this price range, its only RWD and i dunno... its just a big hassel, and then insuring it.. and then, driving on the wrong side of the road for a dialy driver, will, well, suck. i wont be able to park it anywhere with out it getting stared at, touched, or stolen. i know we've had these things before... but im just looking for suggestions.