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wait for vista, or buy now?

Discussion in 'Computers, Games, Electronics etc' started by pissedoffsol, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    Well, my laptop is kinda holding me back from some things I want to do... namely, I want to get a 24-30" widescreen display, and my video card in my laptop tops out at 1440x900. I don't want to open it up and replace stuff. I like it just the way it is, and will still use the laptop as is for other things, and toying on my network and such... but i'd like to get a bigger display, namely because i work from home 4 days a week, and i find myself being anti-product when i remote into other machines that are set for larger displays. scrolling to scroll in a remote window sucks.

    So, i've been thinking about going back to a tower pc as my main system instead of the notebook... something pretty sick. like, a 512 pci-e car with dual dvi's, 1tb of space, 2gb of ram... dualcore, something along those lines.

    But, with vista right around the corner, i'm wondering if i should just wait for it to be released, rather than having to eventually buy it later anyway.

    what do you guys think?

    build a new machine now, and buy xp and later vista
    or hold off for vista's release, and build then.

    i'm not looking for free software here folks, or the options that exist. I have to keep my system legit for work.
     
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    vista is supposed to be under 250, so just get the system now and upgrade later.
     
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    yeah just buy it now :)
     
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    fuck vista, I gaurentee it will suck. buy the desktop of your dreams and just run winxp. I'd suggest using linux but I don't think we'll be able to convince you yet, hell it took you years to witch to mozilla/firefox
     
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    Werd to that.

    B you really should give it a shot. There shouldn't be anything that you are doing (beyond really new Games and if you are gaming on a laptop, you need to be kicked) that you can't do on Linux. I have been a dual booter for 4-5 years now and I stopped using Windws for anything but games a year ago.
     
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    I'd say wait. Not for Vista, but for Direct X 10 cards. If you're going to plunk down serious cash for a video card, you don't want it to be outdated within 2 months, actually 1, I think. The new video cards are supposed to be using GDDR4 RAM and be Direct X 10. It wont really matter if you don't game and most games won't take advantage of it until maybe a few more months or so down the road, but again $300+ isnt worth it for card that will be outdated so fast.

    Back to Vista, I don't see any real advantage's over XP. I looks prettier? The GUI is a lot better, but performance wise, it hasn't been able to beat XP yet.
     
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    i'm not a gamer... i play solitare and poker... thats about it.

    the only reason i need a good card is to support the hi-res of the display i want. Dx9 vs 10 won't mean shit to me i don't think.

    Perhaps i'll throw nix on the laptop after i get a new tower... but for work, I need to be on widows. switching boot ups all day will be a huge pain in the ass. i hate re-booting.
     
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    Yeah I kinda figured you weren't a gamer, but the move to the new RAM will benefit anyone, especially with HD videos (ATi). Another thing, the majority of new waves of cards should come with HDCP, as now, only certain ones do and mostly are OEM cards for system builders. Hopefully, with the new cards, they will come with a die-shrink and more energy efficient, hopefully.

    Needless to say, the cores will be a lot better than the current ones. And the cards should come out 2nd week of Nov.

    Besides, RAM prices right now are outrageous, but what can you do? If need one, you need one.
     
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    Along the HDCP line, dont forget that your monitor must support it as well.
     
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    Sabz5150 FALCON PUNCH!!!

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    You have yet to take the final step, grasshopper :)
     
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    I would wait if you're not hurting too bad right now.

    Longer you wait the cheaper anything computer wise will be, plus you wont have to buy TWO microsoft products
     
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    if you want multi OS, just install unix on a virtual PC... You can even share the NIC with it.
     
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    Upgrade now, I highly doubt Vista is going to come out on time. Look how many delays it has gone through already.
     
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    thats a pretty good model to start with... how much is the budget btw? also, just to let you know, some of the companies are letting you buy a rig and get a free coupon to upgrade to vista later when its release so they dont lose the holiday sales because people are waiting to upgrade to vista later in Q1 of 07.

    if you're going to heavy multitask, i would look at the intel quad-cores or even the amd 4x4 that are heading this way very soon :-D.

    as for the video card, i would only get something that would support whatever screen size you're trying to run, probably in the 300ish range like the 7950GT or the X1950PRO (the ATis are giving better bang for the buck right now) instead of blowing a whole bunch of money and having it obsolete soon... if youre not going to game, i dont even see a need for a 512mb card.
     
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    since its for my home office, i can write it off, so price isn't a big deal to me :)
     
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    either of those two cards would do even the cheaper cards can do those resolutions like the 7900gs. and most of all the newer middle range or higher cards come with dual dvi dual links.

    if budget isnt really a concern i would do this:

    CPU: Intel Quad-core = $999. Could be overkill, but it will handle anything and will be good for cpu intensive tasks like video-editing. The Intel E6600 would be a more reason cpu with 2.4ghz and 4mb of cache at $350.

    Motherboard: ASUS P5B Deluxe = $225. ASUS enough said. One of the best boards out there with loads of features. Overclockers dreams = stablility.

    RAM: Corsair 2X1 GB XMS DDR2800 = $250. Good memory.

    Video Card: 8800GTS = $450. Nvidia's newest next-gen card with DX10 and improved power consumption. Will be leaps and bounds over current gen cards. Its also HDCP compliant. Hi Def porn FTW. The 7590GT is a very good current gen card for $260.

    Case: Cooler Master Stacker = $240. Excellent air-flow with plenty of room to go. The Lian-Li cases are also very very good cases and start around $100.

    Power Supply: OCZ 700w GameXtreme = $120. Solid PSU with plenty of power for all those power hungry parts.

    Hard drive: WD Raptor 74gb x 2 in RAID 0 = $300. Fastest solution besides going to SCSI. 320GB Segate x 2 = $180. Very good cheap storage solution that is SATA and perpendicular recording.

    Monitor: Dell 30" LCD = $1300. Many pro reviews say it rivals Macs own Cinema or even better it.
     
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    yeah, the dell lcd is cheaper, but the sammy comes with a 3-year warranty, unlike dells which you have to add on yourself if you really want it, and thats not small price to pay.

    that, and i'm done giving dell my money and I'm a huge samsung fan anyway.

    i really don't need a quad core :p i'm not doing anything too intensive.

    ideally, i'd like to get a sick graphics card that also has a tv tuner on it so i can watch tv while i work :p
     
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