After visiting the website stickered on the car twice, I believe these are the Liquids, as for size :shrugs: http://www.modwheels.com/wheels/liquid1.html
i noticed the liquids were the 6 spoke, vision's were 5.. i figured they were 18's.. 17's would look smaller then that.
well neermind to those rims.. i got 2 quotes on them today.. 17's with tires i got : $1500 (not including balence, "installation") and $1900 with tires.. 18" were $1800(w/o balence, "installation") and $2200 knock $1000 off the first price on the 18's and i'm all for it