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Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by tegg_gsr, Sep 5, 2003.

  1. tegg_gsr

    tegg_gsr Member

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    I have a 92 hatch vx and im lookin in to swappin motors.At first i was gonna swap a gsr in but i dont want to spend all my money just on the engine and trans...etc.so i was wondering how difficult is it to do a ls/vtec or a b20 vtec.and which cost more.me and my step dad are doing all the werk so no labor fees.i will put some type of f/i (havent decided SC or TC yet)so keep that in mind.thanx
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    just get the GSR
     
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    but would i be better off getting a h22 with I/H/E ?im not really concered with the understeer.or maybe even a b16a?
     
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    oh and when i go to hmo it says that usdm motors have 10 or so hp less how can you tell if your engine(the one that yo buy frm them) is usdm or jdm?
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    just look at the code on the engne
    B16A2 or B16A3 = USDM
    B16A = JDM
    B18C1 = USDM
    B18C = JDM

    JDM engines do not have the last number

    and i would still recomend the GSR over the B16 or the H22
     
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    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    also, isn't the vtec solenoid bigger on jdm engines?
     
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    thanks for the list, clears up some confusion. i figured you would say gsr its just the cost that gets me.thanks again
     
  8. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    the GSR:
    is boost friendly
    it has a great tranny
    you can get it with a LSD
    the cams in it are great for boost
    there are fuck loads of aftermarket parts for it
    it has more displacement than the B16
    it is an easier swap than the H22
    it uses a solid shift linkage (much better feel than the cable linkage the H22 uses)
    it wont have the negative effects on handling that the H22 will
    no axle issues like you get with the H22

    the B16 is a great choice with LOTS of potential... all it really lacks is displacement
    but the GSR still gets my vote
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    not that i know of
     
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    what about the B18C5
     
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    GSR is a great platform like E said to start off at regardless which route you decide to take...
     
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    ls/v-tec's are the best motor u can have i heard...but i heard that the bottom end goes out and runs shitty...but it is bad ass when it is runnin the best
     
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    The're ok, its a good set up for drag i guess, i call them 2 year motors just cuz at most if not built absolutely right, last that long if ur lucky. Maybe im wrong, but u cant beat the reliability of a stock b16 or b18. I'd like the gsr motor for a hatch but i settled for the b16a cuz of the loud vtec. Gsr's dont really like to scream, but u get the extra torque and 10hp. I say stick with the gsr or b16 if ur goin to do a swap. Its plenty power for a hatch and easy to maintain and easy to fix if somethings goes wrong.
     
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    I am going to have to go with the GSR, more displacement, pretty much everything E said is right on the button.
     
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    what about it ?????

    USDM = B18C5
    JDM = B18C


    JDM engines do not have the last number (accept for the VERY rare B16A1 from some special edition JDM CRX)

    and just to answer your next question
    "how do you know if its a type R or a GSR then?"

    look at the code on the head casting
    and look at the intake manifold
     
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    if money is really an issue but you think you might go turbo or sc some day then go with b18b, it's faster than what you are pulling out and is good for boost. vtec isn't exactly wonder technology, but I do like it a lot

    but you can boost a b16 as well and still have vtec and the price is better, you get a better tranny, and if you go jdm you have the lsd option (that is what I did)

    edit: changed b16b to b18b
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    i think you made a type-o


    the B16B (CTR) is not exactly "boost friendly"

    pretty sure you meant B18B (LS)
     
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    oops, you are correct

    "I always do that, I forget some inane detail"
    michael bolton from 'office space'

    sorry about that I might as well have just said that vteck ownz all
     
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    if your looking to build a rocket ship get a jdm H22A it has 200HP and 161ftlb of torque what u need for the swap are integra axles out of years from 90-93 and a 93 accord intermediate shaft. then hasport motor mounts. the only bad part is if u lower it u will rip a oil pan off so i suggest integra suspension with type r brakes and any rims of your choosing. and for even better results get a p28 computer and chip it to h22 specs. then u will have a car that will brake into 13's
     
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