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  1. Sabz5150

    Sabz5150 FALCON PUNCH!!!

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    I've been using AIGLX
    and wine is great too.
    I love beryl, even on my poor intel i810 video card on the laptop.
     
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    beryl doesnt like my laptop but it loves my desktop. AIGLX is new to me tho.
     
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    teach me about linux :)

    seriously, im interested, but im a little hesitant to make the switch since i cant fluently read/write code. and dont know much about linux to begin with. only linux ive ever played around with was knoppix when i had to backup data when windows wouldnt load, and even then i couldnt get it to do much other then copying the files. plus the whole thing with many things not being supported from what i read/hear.

    how good with code do you actually have to be to run a linux setup?
     
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    You dont have to be good at all. I even got my mom running ubuntu. The only weird thing you might need to know is getting your graphics card to work properly. Other than that, almost everything auto-mounts. Worry free install for my laptop and hers.
     
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    and then theres the lack of support thing.

    plus i wouldnt know which system to choose. i like the neat things some linux systems can do (like the 3d stuff) but others seem bland. and i want to be able to use all the same programs windows uses.

    guide me, where should i start?
     
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    Kubuntu. KDE interface. Easy to install. Likes WINE. Likes Beryl (3d interface). Probably your easiest bet.

    Getting wine to work can be tricky with some apps, but with most its pretty straight forward.
     
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    what is WINE is that the OS? i think beryl is the OS too right? ive been doing some reading on linux.org (the beginners guide) but it seems geared to linux in 1995. very basic and lots of commands to do everything. i was under the imression that linux versions have evolved to the point where you dont really need that anymore and you can run and install programs just like you would in windows.

    so is Kubuntu the kernel? or what?
     
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    ok i guess i should have searched first. wine is the windows emulator right? so it will pretty much let me run any windows program? what about installation? or do i have to have it installed somewhere else to be able to run it? im mostly talking about things like <crome> and stuff for tuning. crome has not been released for linux, and i dont think it will be.
     
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    wine is a package included in a lot of distros of linux. you can always install it later if its not in the distro you pick up.

    Kubuntu is what most people like to call the "Flavor" of linux. There are a couple kernels to choose from, but i couldnt tell you the advantages of one over the other. The reason i suggest you start with kubuntu is it seems some programs arent compatible with the gNnome window manager (which is what ubuntu uses), and if they are compatible, they are more friendly in a KDE interface (which is what Kubuntu uses).

    Beryl is kinda like style xp. itll let you customize your desktop to do all sorts of cool 3d junk.

    When i get situated at my new place ill have my system back to normal (only running my windows system right now). Ill see if crome will load up into wine. Who knows, lsvtec might have already done it.
     
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    I'll check it out as well. to see if crome works.
     
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    The kernel is the kernel is the kernel. Functionally, they are all exactly the same. When you choose a kernel to install when you install the distro of your choice, it is a selection of precompiled kernels that have certain things built in... ACPI, low mem usage, SMP, etc. so on and so forth. However it is still the same ol Linux kernel. You'll start off with a basic kernel like most new users, but you will soon find the fun in compiling your own custom kernel to get all the fancy doodads that make Linux fun (magic SysRq key FTMFW).
     
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    see i really want to do the whole 3d desktop thing. and im going to attempt it but it seems to be a lot of work. im just concerned that my laptop's vid card wont be up to the task. its a ATI mobility radeon M6 LY something. its on the list of NON recommended setups, but i did some seraching and i found a "how-to" on setting it up so im gonna give it a shot.

    but what im confused about wine, is how you actually use it. do you use it to install the program and run it? or just run a previously installed program thats on a seperate (windows) partition?
     
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    oh and im sure crome does work with wine, i think i remember reading something about it on pgmfi.org i was just looking for more info on what wine actually does and how it works
     
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    Windows ftw.

    Seriously.
     
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    i use wine to run previously installed programs. i havent tried to install anything cause i only have a fat32 part on my laptop.

    and really, if wine isnt your thing, run VMware. basically you can run windows and linux on the same box without having to restart.
     
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    so how do you access the previously installed programs with wine? do you have to mount the partition with windows and then run the .exe?
     
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    You *can* do that, yes.

    Or.

    You can mount the partition as you mentioned above, then point Wine's virtual drives to your windows partition. All that's required at that point is to make icons on your desktop and click 'em. Wine will take over from there.
     
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    ok that was all thinking ahead. im having major issues connecting to the internet. every tutorial ive seen involves connecting to the internet, but i CANT. i plug in the ethernet cable, nothing. i try to connect wirelessly, it sees the network, but when i try to connect, it fails. how the hell do you connect to the internet?

    all ive managed to acheive so far is partition the drive and install kubuntu 6.06.1 ive been unable to find a straight forward tutorial for where to go from here. i do want to learn, i just cant find what i need. i want my computer to connect to the internet. i cant even get the ethernet port working.

    edit: ok, internet is up and running. just a few little adjustments on the settings and its up and running wireless. the ethernet pot doesnt seem to be woking but thats low priority at this point. everything i read online made it seem like getting wireless working was some huge task, when everything seemed to be built in and straight forward.
     
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    oh and the 'make' command doesnt work.
     
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