well, those of us at CSi have finally figured out how to get around this, and install service packs, and defeat new serial activation, rendering the 3 strikes your out activation sequence finally dead and done. that means if you "activate" the same serial number 3 times, you have to call it into microsoft and get a special activation code. anytime you need to use that serial again, you get a new code, and have to call again and again. our method entails that you dont even "activate" persay, so your key is never sent in. dunno if i should post up how, depends on how the higher-ups feel.