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  1. 92stoccord

    92stoccord Big Member VIP

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    Thursday nights I drive a night shuttle until 2:30AM. Well last night the other driver got pulled off because they said he was using his phone while driving. So they tried to put me on the one that runs until 3:00AM, then you have to close out the route, well I open a route at 6:45 AM, so I didn't want to run on less than 3 hours of sleep, so I told them no, they said they could get me out of my shift this morning, and I told them I'd be losing money doing that. So I wake up this morning at 7:01. Call them, and they say that if I don't call in 10 minutes, they put someone else on my shift. So now I have a no show, less money than I could have gotten, and it all could have been avoided if I drove till 3 last night. Damnit.

    On top of that I have a chem test in 3 hours and my work clothes smell like formaldehyde... Why the fuck am I paying 18000/year for this again?
     
  2. 95b16coupe

    95b16coupe New Member

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    sounds like you got hosed. can't do much about it though.

    it will all be worth it when you finish school and get a real job.
     
  3. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    I keep saying that about grad school and another 2 years of student poverty.
     
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    95b16coupe New Member

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    grad school is a little different. you should have some work experience and cash saved up by then. it shouldn't be as big of a burden.
     
  5. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    I went back because I couldn't find a job. The cash I had saved up went to the first semester's tuition because I wasn't eligible for financial aid yet.
     
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    95b16coupe New Member

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    thats why i suggest people work at banks or ups. they pay for tuition.
     
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    K2e2vin Senior Member

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    I don't know about others, but UPS here only pays (part) of your tuition if you work a certain shift or are a driver.
     
  8. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    But banks and UPS pay shit. I would need a second job to continue with my status quo, which is not all that extravagant.
     
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    go work 30 hours a week as a teller. $10-$12/hr plus benefits and tuition is a good deal.
     
  10. BrutalB83

    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    What are you going to grad school for? If it's some type of position that requires graduate work just to get an entry level job, then that's good, but if it's business or communications and you couldn't find a job with your undgergrad degree, then you might end up in the same boat a couple years from now, and you may find it even harder to get out of it.

    I thought about doing an MBA right off the bat, but I was advised by several people in the know (i.e. lots of work experience, big titles, lots of education) to wait until I had worked for several years and built up a resume to start on my MBA. Think about it...if you're having trouble finding a job with an undergrad degree and minimal work experience, then how's it going to be with a graduate degree and minimal work experience? Employers are going to assume that you want a higher salary then entry level (and you do, right? what's the point of getting the degree otherwise?), but they may not feel comfortable offering a "master's degree required" level job to someone with a minimal resume.

    I'm not saying it's for certain, but there's a possibility that you could end up with more debt then you already have, but still only able to secure entry level positions.

    Just something to think about. Hopefully your master's program integrates a good amount of field experience and internships...
     
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    94H_Ex Under employed

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    Unless you can't count.
     
  12. UNDR8D

    UNDR8D ...has a job!

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    You win the fuckin' prize! I wish we could go have a beer together and talk about that for fucking hours.

    This is the best advice I have heard on the subject yet, and only because I am living it.

    I have applied to every job you can imagine with every range of responsibility. I have talked with recruiters, people in HR, professionals, and assholes with opinions and this is exactly where I stand. I wish I had known. I would have done things totally differently.

    I have applied for manufacturing jobs. Some of them pay pretty well and it is a good opportunity to learn a business model from the ground up. The recruiter at Summit Packaging Systems told my friend, who referred me, that they wouldn't touch me. They felt that if they hired me for a production job, I would leave as soon as the economy improved or I found a better opportunity.

    Similarly, exactly like Brutal said, no one is going to give me the level of responsibility that my degree has "prepared" me for, without the work experience. And I really have none so...

    I am in a shitty spot and you will be too. This is great advice. Even if it does mean managing a Dunkin Donuts for two years or working in customer service, at least you can lay claim to THAT experience. My shit is all over the place.
     
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    the average age of MBA students is falling dramatically. it's roughly 28 years old right now.

    then a degree is pointless too.
     
  14. UNDR8D

    UNDR8D ...has a job!

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    And just to stifle the haters, because I know it is coming, I have recently altered my approach to involve almost only cold calling and visiting/walk-in. I am not doing much online applying. It is a worthless black hole.

    So, I am "getting out there" "shaking hands" "taking risks" and all that other bullshit. I am not hiding behind my laptop waiting for someone to give me a break...
     
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    UNDR8D ...has a job!

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    And if you can do an internship, DO IT. That is one of the things I really wish I had done. I did a consulting internship in undergrad but it was with a start-up software firm and not a large company. I should have tried to get one coming out of the MBA program, but I was working at Merrill so I kind of just let it go.

    /rant
     
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    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    shake babies, kiss hands.
     
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    UNDR8D ...has a job!

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    Yes...shake them vigorously!
     
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    Go back take some education classes and take your pick of companies you can go be a corporate trainer for. While finishing up schools I had more offers from companies asking me to be trainer for them than I had school position offerings and I had 30 schools chasing me from left coast to right Canada to Mexico. With a combination of Business/Com and some education courses you would be a perfect fit for a training position. Once you have your foot in the door you can do what you want. I plan on leaving the teaching career the year after I have my 30 years in and either becoming a consultant in media technology. Which is going into a school and show them how to teach in a more interactive way using the technology they have or to become a corporate trainer. I am 10 years into teaching Technology and Engineering so I can leave this career at 51 and still have plenty of time and opportunities ahead of me.
     
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    UNDR8D ...has a job!

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    I have thought about training. I love teaching. I thought you usually had to have worked for the company in another capacity though? Either way sounds fun.

    I applied for an accounting job with the Ventura County Board of Education. There is a good chance I will get it. If so I might just give them 20 to get pension then be done with it at 45 when I'm supposed to be hitting my career stride anyway.

    I'm not at all the type to work at one place for more than even two years though...

    Of course these ridiculous state employee pensions are a large part of why CA is in the hole right now.
     
  20. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    Going for my MS in Accounting. BA is in Communications. I'll also be qualified to take the CPA exam when I'm done.

    I agree but I'm not very worried. My older sister works at Goldman Sachs and can at least get me an interview. We have family friends that will help me out with interviews for accounting jobs. I have a friend who's mother is a controller. She already said she will give me a job when I graduate and then give me her job when she retires shortly.

    Worst case scenario, I also have a marketing job that I have already been offered but my schedule won't allow me to accept it. They said it will be waiting for me if I want it after graduation.

    I have no debt from undergrad. I paid that off with a year of full-time work. Grad school will leave me with about $20k of debt. Not worried about that either.

    I actually plan on joining the Air Force Reserves right out of school and going through officer training.

    In the long run I plan on being self-employed in some respect and being an adjunct undergrad accounting professor.
     
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