Well, here goes. I give up. No matter what I do, what I say, how I respond, it's always wrong. For the 5th time in my life, I got the "we should just be friends" ... "because I (meaning her) feel I can't give you (meaning me) all that I want to give of myself". I was perfectly happy with what I had going. I never complained that I couldn't see her, or didn't have enough time to go out, or anything. The times we did have together, were generally on the good side. And now today, she flips out basically, kinda putting words in my mouth so it didn't sound like it was her doing.... for example- I'm not what you want when I've told her several times that she is what I want. and that it's not about quantity, it's quality. This went into her saying that she feels that she can't devote 100% of her efforts into a relationship right now. Not because of me, but because of her. I replied and said that what I do have from you right now is enough. I'm not asking for more. Again, it went back to her. She said that she wouldn't feel right about it. so, to some this all up, ohhhhh K a big long, ok. Inside, i'm hurt cuz i really care about her. But moreover, I'm fucking confused as hell. I KNOW she likes me, and deep down, she wants to be with me, but she keeps on pressing to just be friends for a while. Like a title is going to change the way either of us feel about each other?? If you LIKE someone, and CARE about someone, and want to BE with someone, WHY do you just want to be friends? It makes 0 sense to me. none. I waited 3 years for someone to come along that i actually think was what I wanted, but its the same thing, all over again. The same shit i went through with my x's. Enough about my pathetic and fucked up love life, the point of this thread is to delve into women's heads a little... and hopefully get some response from our few female members. Post your ... not so much problems, but confusions. I guess my main question here is why do girls stuff like this? Why do they avoid what the truely feel? Why are they all afraid of having someone care about them, be there for them, and want them? It never fails. The second i start getting close to a girl, they run away from me. Is it me? or is it every girl out there who I simply cannot seem to work with on a relationship level? I mean, I have a handful of female friends and we get along just fine. The second emotion is involved, shit just hits the fan. Maybe it's cuz of b16vx's old sig.... due to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.