Hmotorsonline sent me a part one time, packed in their own scrap paper.. Invoices.. I couldn't help but look through them. They get the motors shockingly cheap! Then they pay shipping, which is pretty damn high.. then they pay taxes when the motors hit the shore, and they lose their ass. The invoice I was looking at showed $3,600 in taxes alone for 6 motors, which was more than the motors cost them initially. Wish it would have listed what they were..