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pyrohardcore

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ok, as far fetched as this may seem. my buddy is a military machinist and told me, if i can get him the blueprints for honda stuff he can build it for me from lighter and stronger stuff then anyone non=military can offer. so if anyone can tell me where to get any blueprints for engine, tranny, axels, engine internals. anything is helpful. B16 or B18 preferred H22 would be friggin awesome. let me know. pleaase i hope someone can help me here!
 
the military doesnt always have the lightest/strongest material, because their metals are mil-spec, and many companies have material that surpass mil-spec.

when you're saying lightest and strongest im guessing he is going to use some sort of magnesium alloy.
 
No standard shop is going to be able to make engine, or tranny you need special jigs and fixtures and other tooling, so even if you could get blue prints it's not going to happen. Have him make you a nice guage bezel or something instead.
 
ahhahah a gauge bezel.


call honda and ask for blueprints... see what they say
 
Originally posted by pyrohardcore@Apr 21 2003, 11:53 PM
ok, as far fetched as this may seem. my buddy is a military machinist and told me, if i can get him the blueprints for honda stuff he can build it for me from lighter and stronger stuff then anyone non=military can offer. so if anyone can tell me where to get any blueprints for engine, tranny, axels, engine internals. anything is helpful. B16 or B18 preferred H22 would be friggin awesome. let me know. pleaase i hope someone can help me here!

You're buddy is full of shit. Nothing personal. But if the military did have bigger badder stronger lighter materials, he's definitely not going to get his grubby little meat hooks on enough of it to make you a shifter or what have you.
 
uhh you can get your engine blueprinted from spoon or other places like that I believe




Yea just call up honda, I'm sure they aren't copyrighted or guarded :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by liquid00meth@Apr 22 2003, 04:34 PM
uhh you can get your engine blueprinted from spoon or other places like that I believe

thats not getting blueprints for the engine .... thats what they call it when they bring the engine back into very exacting specs... its kinda like a super rebuild process

if that was sarcasm then sorry ... didnt catch it :)
 
ya no to biuld a block you need casts adn i dont see you buddy doing that byhimself in this life time it take 600+ men and robots to build a honda so on srucb private with 2 years exper will not be able to come close to duplicating that tech
 
Originally posted by hcivic.com@Apr 22 2003, 10:24 PM
ya no to biuld a block you need casts adn i dont see you buddy doing that byhimself in this life time it take 600+ men and robots to build a honda so on srucb private with 2 years exper will not be able to come close to duplicating that tech

Well,he never said he was a private,since by two years most are Specialist or Corporal,goes to show what people know about the military.Anyway,actually recovery and support,or a 3rd shop can build anything they need.They completely rebuild Humvee,5tons,all kinds of tracks,tanks,whatever.As far as the materials,maybe,maybe not,depends on what kind of civilian access they have and whether or not he can get his hands on it.I can however tell you that it is illegal (fraud,waste and abuse) so if he gets caught,unless his superiors are super cool,he'll get the shaft.
 
its funny how everyone seems to say blocks are cast. not all blocks are cast. merlin and Dart make forged blocks kids, not cast. and as funny as it seems, perhaps a block is far beyond his capabilities, altho completly reproducing engine parts for multi billion dollar investments in aviation isnt? hmm. i figured actuall block CAD prints wouldn't be accessable. and i am declaring i take this not personally, at all. The metal is called "hast X" thats the short hand for it. aside from that i'm not totally sure as to what it is. he said its what they use to weld with on afterburners and shite. heat tolerance seems more then enough for vehicular use. i have seen work that he and his "crew-be's" have done, they seem to have no problem making anything for parts. pistons, rods, remade a ford Z-tec head. said it wasnt that big of a deal. remember this isn't all by hand, its on a CNC machine, same thing "real companys" use. when did i say how long he was in? i mean someone made a comment about "2 years experience" blah blah blah. anyway, perhaps i'll just stick to "honda's brilliance" and get parts made for me. instead of entire sections. flywheel, pistons, crank, rods. etc. funny, everyone rants and raves about the metalergy of chromoly, why not use something stronger, lighter, and more heat resistant? here comes more bashing....blah blah blah. he's welded chromoly says its tough stuff, but this shit is way more hardcore. guess i'm sorta out in the open surrounded by fat kids in paintball tho, the object of critisism i am currently.
 
personally i think its a great idea .... the best way to go about it would be to get an engine and let him reproduce it with the new material
get a helms manual so you know all the specs and tollerances and go at it

its definatly possible with the right equipment (he has that)
so i guess its just a matter of having the time to do it
 
if i had machines like that i sure would have a lot of fun :D

i'd build like a 4.0L straight six ready for heavy boost :worthy: . . . forget 1.6 and 1.8 engines :ph34r:
 
"hast X"

sounds like a Hastelloy alloy to me.
we used Hast 22C here at work.
it's a bitch to machine yet good for high temp and corrostion reistance.
it's a non-ferric meterial. it also has a lower yielding strength than steel.

but I guess the properties could be changed depending upon the alloy's composition.
 
helms manual? what is this and where can i get it sir's? i asked him if i could just bring him the enigne and tranny and what not and have him reproduce all of the pieces, he said it would take more time for him to take all the proper measurements and what not then i would be willing to wait. he said with blueprints he'd have all that plus he could just put it into the CNC computer and let it goto town. i also have a buddy that is a honda tech or what not. he told me he'd see what he can do about all the print jazz, again, i doubt the likely hood. i'm thinkin perhaps the internals might be the best way to go on havin him reproduce parts. head work and stuff all those pieces, he can port it for me if i tell him how much to port it out. i hope to do this, again, it all depends on me getting some specifications. i gues si could just send him the pieces and wait for ever. lol
 
Originally posted by pyrohardcore@Apr 22 2003, 06:56 PM
guess i'm sorta out in the open surrounded by fat kids in paintball tho

This I like,very funny. :lol:. me keep?
 
Damn nice to know where those tax dollars are going....
 
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