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91civisedaner · 08-31-2009, 08:43 PM

I have a '91 sedan,and I'm buying 13" enkei 92s with a big lip. i think their 13x6 or 7.anyone rolling a setup lke this?? I'm gonna roll 175 50 13 to tuck them or 185 60 13s will i have to roll the fenders?? Help Please!! i appericiate ANY info!! THANKS

hooligan · 08-31-2009, 09:22 PM

Whats the offset of the wheels?
running 175's would not make a difference b/c their only .4 inches thinner. If your tires are stickin out they may hit the fenders when you bottom out so see if you can put enough weight on the car to see if they will hit when the car bottoms out. It will probably will look better any ways with your fenders rolled if your wheels are stikkin out. Some reputation points would be nice

eg6sir · 08-31-2009, 09:28 PM

its all depends on the offset..

91civisedaner · 08-31-2009, 10:18 PM

their a 0 off set.I'd have more rep but I haven't been on here for a year

hooligan · 08-31-2009, 10:28 PM

0 offset does not seem right b/c if they have a big lip they should have positive offset. It would be nice if you gave me some rep points is what i mean

91civisedaner · 08-31-2009, 10:32 PM

then i dont know the off set,they have a 2" lip and they stick way out of a 1985 toyota corolla fenders

eg6sir · 08-31-2009, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

0 offset does not seem right b/c if they have a big lip they should have positive offset. It would be nice if you gave me some rep points is what i mean

you got that backwards...

anyways.. w/ a 0 offset you'll need to add some camber to get it to tuck and roll the fenders possibly

91civisedaner · 08-31-2009, 10:38 PM

i checked out some threads on here they appear to be +12 off set

eg6sir · 08-31-2009, 10:41 PM

do you know how to measure offset?

read this
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace

91civisedaner · 08-31-2009, 10:50 PM

i can't measure them right now they have tires 205 60 13s and are still on the toyota i'm pickin' them up on wensday,I just wanted to know if anyone runs some thing similar and if I could tuck them, with a little tire stretch and rolled fenders,i'm not lookin' to go to low just enough to tuck a little,egr6 sir you had a post w/a eg w/some 15" 92s they look just like them but 13s

hooligan · 08-31-2009, 11:13 PM

Honda wheels have around +40mm offset so you may or may not have a problem with +12mm offset which is around an inch difference. The 175mm tires actually may help.

I know what im talking about eg6sir

Some rep points for me would be cool!

eg6sir · 08-31-2009, 11:17 PM

sure.. but it'll be negative if you beg for it..

... so, if you still want that rep.. i can give it to you or you can forget about it..

anyways, you're wrong still.. big lips will usually have a negative offset or a low positive offset

hooligan · 08-31-2009, 11:21 PM

please explain why civic wheels have around +40mm offset? He is getting +12mm offset which means the mounting surface is 12mm to the outside of the centerline which means they will stick out more. What part does not make sense?

eg6sir · 08-31-2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

0 offset does not seem right b/c if they have a big lip they should have positive offset. It would be nice if you gave me some rep points is what i mean

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

please explain why civic wheels have around +40mm offset?

last time i checked Civic wheels didnt have a big lip.. hell, they dont have any lip

take a gander at this .. notice the wider the rim, the less chance that it'll be a positive offset wheel.. thats because wide wheels have a bigger lip usually

hooligan · 08-31-2009, 11:41 PM

The big lip has nothing to do with offset. It all depends on the mounting surface and were it is compared to the centerline of the wheel.

And that chart you have is backspace which is a different measurment than offset. Backspace is measuring the back edge of the wheel compared to the mounting surface.

Please do some research then you will see. I really should have at leas 100 rep points by now.

efhondakid · 08-31-2009, 11:44 PM

And to the OP who cares, get some flare if need be, my friend is tucking a set of Axis OG Sans with the 3 inch lip and fender flares on his EK, looks sick.

hooligan · 08-31-2009, 11:47 PM

And you don't change camber to fix offset eg6sir. If you do your gunna have change your front tires at least twice as much.

efhondakid · 08-31-2009, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

And you don't change camber to fix offset eg6sir. If you do your gunna have change your front tires at least twice as much.

He said camber to get them to tuck, like the euro guys do.

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhondakid

He said camber to get them to tuck, like the euro guys do.

Camber, Caster, Tow. If your talking about that camber than he will be running on the insides of his tires( same thing happens when lowering cars) and the inside of the tire will wear out much quicker. It also will affect stearing if done to much. If thats what your talkin bout. sorry if its a different camber than what you are talkin about.

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

The big lip has nothing to do with offset. It all depends on the mounting surface and were it is compared to the centerline of the wheel.

And that chart you have is backspace which is a different measurment than offset. Backspace is measuring the back edge of the wheel compared to the mounting surface.

Please do some research then you will see. I really should have at leas 100 rep points by now.

first off... that chart shows offset.. in order to know what your offset is you need to know what the backspace is... you're the one that needs to do some research

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

And you don't change camber to fix offset eg6sir. If you do your gunna have change your front tires at least twice as much.

it isnt the camber that wears out the tires quickly.. its the toe ..

anyways.... go back to school, learn to read.. then you can come here and try to argue w/ me

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhondakid

He said camber to get them to tuck, like the euro guys do.

thank you... at least some of our members know how to read..

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 12:35 AM

I have a nice video for anyone that wants to learn about camber, caster, and toe. Please just watch the video and stop arguing. thanks

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 12:44 AM

first off, this discussion is about offset, not about camber.. the OP said he wanted to tuck... well, in order to tuck a +0 offset, or hell.. even a +12 offset .. he'll need to run more camber

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 12:55 AM

here is the website to explain offset, and backspace please read carefully to understand it.

https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html this should end this argument if you read and understand it.

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eg6sir

do you know how to measure offset?

read this
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

here is the website to explain offset, and backspace please read carefully to understand it.

https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html this should end this argument if you read and understand it

wow.. you're a fucking bright one...

E_SolSi · 09-01-2009, 01:01 AM

fucking tard

08-31-2009, 08:43 PM	#1
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	'91 sedan 13" rims with lip?? I have a '91 sedan,and I'm buying 13" enkei 92s with a big lip. i think their 13x6 or 7.anyone rolling a setup lke this?? I'm gonna roll 175 50 13 to tuck them or 185 60 13s will i have to roll the fenders?? Help Please!! i appericiate ANY info!! THANKS

08-31-2009, 11:13 PM	#11
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	Honda wheels have around +40mm offset so you may or may not have a problem with +12mm offset which is around an inch difference. The 175mm tires actually may help. I know what im talking about eg6sir Some rep points for me would be cool! Last edited by hooligan; 08-31-2009 at 11:16 PM.

08-31-2009, 11:21 PM	#13
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	please explain why civic wheels have around +40mm offset? He is getting +12mm offset which means the mounting surface is 12mm to the outside of the centerline which means they will stick out more. What part does not make sense? Last edited by hooligan; 08-31-2009 at 11:28 PM.

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hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	I have a nice video for anyone that wants to learn about camber, caster, and toe. Please just watch the video and stop arguing. thanks Last edited by hooligan; 09-01-2009 at 12:37 AM.


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08-31-2009, 09:22 PM	#2
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	Whats the offset of the wheels? running 175's would not make a difference b/c their only .4 inches thinner. If your tires are stickin out they may hit the fenders when you bottom out so see if you can put enough weight on the car to see if they will hit when the car bottoms out. It will probably will look better any ways with your fenders rolled if your wheels are stikkin out. Some reputation points would be nice

08-31-2009, 10:18 PM	#4
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	their a 0 off set.I'd have more rep but I haven't been on here for a year

08-31-2009, 10:28 PM	#5
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	0 offset does not seem right b/c if they have a big lip they should have positive offset. It would be nice if you gave me some rep points is what i mean

08-31-2009, 10:32 PM	#6
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	then i dont know the off set,they have a 2" lip and they stick way out of a 1985 toyota corolla fenders

08-31-2009, 10:38 PM	#8
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	i checked out some threads on here they appear to be +12 off set

08-31-2009, 10:50 PM	#10
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	i can't measure them right now they have tires 205 60 13s and are still on the toyota i'm pickin' them up on wensday,I just wanted to know if anyone runs some thing similar and if I could tuck them, with a little tire stretch and rolled fenders,i'm not lookin' to go to low just enough to tuck a little,egr6 sir you had a post w/a eg w/some 15" 92s they look just like them but 13s

08-31-2009, 11:41 PM	#15
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	The big lip has nothing to do with offset. It all depends on the mounting surface and were it is compared to the centerline of the wheel. And that chart you have is backspace which is a different measurment than offset. Backspace is measuring the back edge of the wheel compared to the mounting surface. Please do some research then you will see. I really should have at leas 100 rep points by now.

08-31-2009, 11:47 PM	#17
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	And you don't change camber to fix offset eg6sir. If you do your gunna have change your front tires at least twice as much.

09-01-2009, 12:55 AM	#23
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	here is the website to explain offset, and backspace please read carefully to understand it. https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html this should end this argument if you read and understand it. Last edited by hooligan; 09-01-2009 at 12:58 AM.

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