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eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 01:02 AM

yea... dont you hate the 19 yr old know-it-alls ... i sure do..

E_SolSi · 09-01-2009, 01:07 AM

they are pretty much why i dont really post in the tech forums any more

i dont feel like dealing with them

they get 1/2 a bit of understanding of something and think they know every fucking thing

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 01:09 AM

I guess i will not get it in your heads unless i get a video of offset and backspacing like i did with the camber, caster, toe video.

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 01:11 AM

hahaha.. a kid telling us he wont get it into our heads.... you really need to stop posting.. it'll get you rep, not the kind you keep asking for either.. lol

E_SolSi · 09-01-2009, 01:13 AM

91civisedaner · 09-01-2009, 02:15 AM

thanks guys for your input

cjvictoria · 09-01-2009, 02:30 AM

yeah sry bout the doosh bag.... but hey, not all 19 year olds are like that! look at me... and i was bout to school that fool. ah, one day... one day i'll get the chance lol

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 10:55 AM

for all you haters im putin a new thread up explaining offset, backspacing just like i explain it from

AMERICAN RACING WHEELS, if they arn't right who is?

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 11:01 AM

no need.. we know what it is

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 11:32 AM

go to Measuring and Defining Wheel Offset since i cant putty any threads up b/c all you haters.

If you dont trust a 50 year old company(American Racing Wheels) who can you trust! They explain it just like i do.

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

go to Measuring and Defining Wheel Offset since i cant putty any threads up b/c all you haters.

If you dont trust a 50 year old company(American Racing Wheels) who can you trust! They explain it just like i do.

holy fuck!... shut up already... we know what offset is and how to measure it

and no, they dont explain it like you do.. you explain it like them, tardcart ..

AHHVTEC · 09-01-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

for all you haters im putin a new thread up explaining offset, backspacing just like i explain it from

AMERICAN RACING WHEELS, if they arn't right who is?

what im trying to understand is eg said to run a wider tire rim combo to run more camber so it would tuck in the fender wells , what was wrong with him saying that ?

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 01:20 PM

the kids just a kid that likes to argue

efhondakid · 09-01-2009, 04:33 PM

This is what eg was talking about when he said camber to tuck em in. My friend Randy's EF with the big lip Sportmax 501s, notice his rear camber.

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 04:59 PM

Last time i will explain this stuff

Yes I see in the pic the top of the wheel is pointing inward.

His tires are going to wear quickly in the inside of the tire because there is more weight on the inside of the tire.( when you get an alignmet they make sure there is little camber so the tires wears evenly.

Thats that, i'm tired of explaining. I've changed 1000's of tires so i know what i say.

Go to your local tire shop and they will say the same thing

eg6sir · 09-01-2009, 05:06 PM

shuuuuuuttt uuuuuuppp.... we all know what camber is ... and incorrect toe is what wears a tire out faster than camber.. when you get an alignment on a Honda, all the do is correct the toe..

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 05:12 PM

You are pitiful. i feel sorry for you.

all three can wear tires, but mostly camber and toe. It can be all three if you have a bent control arm.

The pic shows camber wear not toe wear.

You will never understand it i guess unless i get the president of the USA. funny funny

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 05:17 PM

camber wear

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 05:18 PM

toe wear

AHHVTEC · 09-01-2009, 05:21 PM

yes camber will wear a tire down, but your not answering my question, would a wider wheel than normal on a civic if you run camber it will allow you to tuck the rim and still run the rim combo correct ?

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 05:32 PM

A wider wheel than normal, on a civic, can be tucked with camber so they dont hit the fenders.

And it will wear like I showed in the caber wear picture above. And it will affect handling negatively if its done at to much of an angle.

Does that explain it all AHHVTEC?

thanks for talking with wisdom. You seem to be only of a few on hondaswap that make sense with stuff

AHHVTEC · 09-01-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan

A wider wheel than normal, on a civic, can be tucked with camber so they dont hit the fenders.

And it will wear like I showed in the caber wear picture above. And it will affect handling negatively if its done at to much of an angle.

Does that explain it all AHHVTEC?

yes it does, so back to square 1 thread starter you can run those rims with more camber but the tires will wear faster

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 05:41 PM

Yes the +12 mm offset will only stick out 1 inch more or so

My preference would be to roll the fenders before changing camber so the tires last longer.

You have earned more rep points

cjvictoria · 09-01-2009, 09:08 PM

no he hasnt. Your rep power is non existant. now if i were to give him + rep that would do something. see? went from 248 to 250! now try and do the math and figure out just how much all your neg rep really doesnt do at all....

hooligan · 09-01-2009, 09:19 PM

Its the thought what counts. That guy knows his stuff. The only reason i have such neg. rep. is because a couple of guys on here got pissed off because i was right with most of my stuff . it was preatty funny. He wrote a whole page b/c he was so pissed b/c he didn't think i was right. lol as you can see on this thread I backed up my knoledge with pics but still couldn't explain it to him.

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09-01-2009, 04:59 PM	#40
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	Last time i will explain this stuff Yes I see in the pic the top of the wheel is pointing inward. His tires are going to wear quickly in the inside of the tire because there is more weight on the inside of the tire.( when you get an alignmet they make sure there is little camber so the tires wears evenly. Thats that, i'm tired of explaining. I've changed 1000's of tires so i know what i say. Go to your local tire shop and they will say the same thing Last edited by hooligan; 09-01-2009 at 05:05 PM.

09-01-2009, 05:12 PM	#42
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	You are pitiful. i feel sorry for you. all three can wear tires, but mostly camber and toe. It can be all three if you have a bent control arm. The pic shows camber wear not toe wear. You will never understand it i guess unless i get the president of the USA. funny funny Last edited by hooligan; 09-01-2009 at 05:15 PM.

09-01-2009, 05:32 PM	#46
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	A wider wheel than normal, on a civic, can be tucked with camber so they dont hit the fenders. And it will wear like I showed in the caber wear picture above. And it will affect handling negatively if its done at to much of an angle. Does that explain it all AHHVTEC? thanks for talking with wisdom. You seem to be only of a few on hondaswap that make sense with stuff Last edited by hooligan; 09-01-2009 at 05:37 PM.


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09-01-2009, 01:09 AM	#28
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	I guess i will not get it in your heads unless i get a video of offset and backspacing like i did with the camber, caster, toe video.

09-01-2009, 02:15 AM	#31
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	thanks guys for your input

09-01-2009, 10:55 AM	#33
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	for all you haters im putin a new thread up explaining offset, backspacing just like i explain it from AMERICAN RACING WHEELS, if they arn't right who is?

09-01-2009, 11:32 AM	#35
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	go to Measuring and Defining Wheel Offset since i cant putty any threads up b/c all you haters. If you dont trust a 50 year old company(American Racing Wheels) who can you trust! They explain it just like i do.

09-01-2009, 05:17 PM	#43
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	camber wear

09-01-2009, 05:18 PM	#44
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	toe wear

09-01-2009, 05:21 PM	#45
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,380 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	yes camber will wear a tire down, but your not answering my question, would a wider wheel than normal on a civic if you run camber it will allow you to tuck the rim and still run the rim combo correct ?

09-01-2009, 05:41 PM	#48
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	Yes the +12 mm offset will only stick out 1 inch more or so My preference would be to roll the fenders before changing camber so the tires last longer. You have earned more rep points Last edited by hooligan; 09-01-2009 at 05:45 PM.

09-01-2009, 09:08 PM	#49
cjvictoria Neon Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: JAX, FL Age: 20 Posts: 2,098 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '04 NEON Rep Power: 89	no he hasnt. Your rep power is non existant. now if i were to give him + rep that would do something. see? went from 248 to 250! now try and do the math and figure out just how much all your neg rep really doesnt do at all.... __________________ *XBOX LIVE* - jdmJO3 >>>Click ME<<< I have D16Y7 injectors and fuel rail fo sale. pm me if interested**.

09-01-2009, 09:19 PM	#50
hooligan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ATL Age: 19 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: CIVIC Rep Power: 0	Its the thought what counts. That guy knows his stuff. The only reason i have such neg. rep. is because a couple of guys on here got pissed off because i was right with most of my stuff . it was preatty funny. He wrote a whole page b/c he was so pissed b/c he didn't think i was right. lol as you can see on this thread I backed up my knoledge with pics but still couldn't explain it to him.

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