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Bl6CRX · 08-23-2004, 12:00 AM

Thats basically it, I bleed the brakes and it feels good for a couple of days, but then gets mushy again, maybe I got a leak somewhere, anyone have any ideas???

E_SolSi · 08-23-2004, 12:01 AM

master of slave cyl

Slammed89Integra · 08-23-2004, 12:36 AM

Hmm, same problem I have.....Maybe I should replace that...

Bl6CRX · 08-23-2004, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by E_SolSi@Aug 22 2004, 08:01 PM
master of slave cyl

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yeah i hoping that wasn't it, the pedel holds pressure fine when you pump it up and hold it down, so how are the remanufactured ones? is this something that oem honda would be worth the extra $$$

MikeBergy · 08-23-2004, 01:56 AM

Check the little bleeder nipples to make sure they are not leaking. When I had my calipers worked on, I had to replace the washers on the banjo bolts as well. If you pulled those off at all, check those too. Did you fully empty the master cylinder? Because if you did, it will also need to be bled.

hcivic.com · 08-23-2004, 02:04 AM

gat a rebuild kit and do it your self

Bl6CRX · 08-23-2004, 12:37 PM

no the MC was not empty, but I'll check the bleeders for leaks, rebuild kit eh? has anyone had good/bad luck with these? how much do they run?

reckedracing · 08-23-2004, 12:44 PM

are you running with brand new brake fluid?
cause old fluid could be your problem

also, does it get spongy ALL the time, or only during hard braking?

what kind of car with what brake setup?

CReX123 · 08-25-2004, 10:10 AM

"Did you fully empty the master cylinder? Because if you did, it will also need to be bled."

Question, How do you bleed the master cylinder???????

PaternityTest · 08-30-2004, 02:16 AM

now im no genius but wouldnt a slow leak anywhere in the brake system do the same thing

hcivic.com · 08-30-2004, 04:35 AM

you bleed the brakes one at a time and ensure the mc dosn't run dry

Bl6CRX · 08-30-2004, 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by reckedracing@Aug 23 2004, 08:44 AM

also, does it get spongy ALL the time, or only during hard braking?

what kind of car with what brake setup?

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no its gets spungy all the time, it will be real stiff for a couple of days then get spongy again, brake setup is 90-93 Teg brakes up front, with stock (91 CRX HF) hubs in the back, 98 EX booster and 15/16 MC, running stock lines on the regular fluid, everything was bleed properly, im still thinking its a leak, but i have not had time to check it out

CReX123 · 08-30-2004, 10:16 AM

How did you bleed the brakes?

Bl6CRX · 08-30-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by CReX123@Aug 30 2004, 06:16 AM
How did you bleed the brakes?

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I did the traditional method, no quick auto bleeder or whatever its called, order was RL RR RF LF, its done correctly though, i just don't feel like writing the whole procedure out

hcivic.com · 08-30-2004, 01:13 PM

are you losing fluid?

92b16vx · 08-31-2004, 09:46 AM

You more than likely still have air in the system, possibly from the master cylinder getting some in it during bleeding, or air going back into the lines during bleeding. Usually when equipment fails, it's isn't intermitent, it's consistant.

Bench bleed the MC and rebleed the system. If that doesn't fix it, it's possible the piston seals are bad also, that's is, if you can find something somewhere else.

CReX123 · 08-31-2004, 10:12 AM

What does Bench Bleed the MC Mean????????

92b16vx · 08-31-2004, 10:38 AM

Bench bleeding is done to get air bubbles out of the MC that are there because air got in A. during bleeding, or B on a brand new one that hasn't had fluid in it before.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=874191

Air in the MC is a common problem because it is often done wrong, and the symptoms will remain.

CReX123 · 08-31-2004, 11:24 AM

How much did that new MC cost you????? and will it bolt onto an 88 CRX HF????

Bl6CRX · 09-02-2004, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by CReX123@Aug 31 2004, 07:24 AM
How much did that new MC cost you????? and will it bolt onto an 88 CRX HF????

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If you mean me, I got the MC and booster off ebay for 7 dollars

Edit: forgot, no the MC will not fit without replaceing the booster, but a 15/16th from a 91 EX will

CReX123 · 09-02-2004, 12:06 PM

So if i get the 91 civic ex M/C, i do or dont need to change the booster????? on an 88 crx hf

08-23-2004, 12:36 AM	#3
Slammed89Integra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Washington Age: 22 Posts: 7,741 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Scion TC, 2005 Suzuki GSX-R 600 Rep Power: 155	Hmm, same problem I have.....Maybe I should replace that... __________________ When this is all over I think we should get an apartment together.

08-23-2004, 12:44 PM	#8
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	are you running with brand new brake fluid? cause old fluid could be your problem also, does it get spongy ALL the time, or only during hard braking? what kind of car with what brake setup? __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

08-30-2004, 02:16 AM	#10
PaternityTest Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	now im no genius but wouldnt a slow leak anywhere in the brake system do the same thing __________________ WTB: B18b oil pan

08-31-2004, 09:46 AM	#16
92b16vx B happy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Age: 38 Posts: 13,020 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dohc 95 egg Rep Power: 186	You more than likely still have air in the system, possibly from the master cylinder getting some in it during bleeding, or air going back into the lines during bleeding. Usually when equipment fails, it's isn't intermitent, it's consistant. Bench bleed the MC and rebleed the system. If that doesn't fix it, it's possible the piston seals are bad also, that's is, if you can find something somewhere else. __________________ 95 CX\|B16A2 XBL \| binary xj0hnx \| Halo 3

08-31-2004, 10:38 AM	#18
92b16vx B happy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Age: 38 Posts: 13,020 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dohc 95 egg Rep Power: 186	Bench bleeding is done to get air bubbles out of the MC that are there because air got in A. during bleeding, or B on a brand new one that hasn't had fluid in it before. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=874191 Air in the MC is a common problem because it is often done wrong, and the symptoms will remain. __________________ 95 CX\|B16A2 XBL \| binary xj0hnx \| Halo 3


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08-23-2004, 12:00 AM	#1
Bl6CRX Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UCLA Posts: 1,546 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 28	Thats basically it, I bleed the brakes and it feels good for a couple of days, but then gets mushy again, maybe I got a leak somewhere, anyone have any ideas???

08-23-2004, 02:04 AM	#6
hcivic.com Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta canada Posts: 4,577 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 59	gat a rebuild kit and do it your self

08-23-2004, 12:37 PM	#7
Bl6CRX Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UCLA Posts: 1,546 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 28	no the MC was not empty, but I'll check the bleeders for leaks, rebuild kit eh? has anyone had good/bad luck with these? how much do they run?

08-25-2004, 10:10 AM	#9
CReX123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 477 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 16	"Did you fully empty the master cylinder? Because if you did, it will also need to be bled." Question, How do you bleed the master cylinder???????

08-30-2004, 04:35 AM	#11
hcivic.com Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta canada Posts: 4,577 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 59	you bleed the brakes one at a time and ensure the mc dosn't run dry

08-30-2004, 10:16 AM	#13
CReX123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 477 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 16	How did you bleed the brakes?

08-30-2004, 01:13 PM	#15
hcivic.com Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta canada Posts: 4,577 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 59	are you losing fluid?

08-31-2004, 10:12 AM	#17
CReX123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 477 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 16	What does Bench Bleed the MC Mean????????

08-31-2004, 11:24 AM	#19
CReX123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 477 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 16	How much did that new MC cost you????? and will it bolt onto an 88 CRX HF????

09-02-2004, 12:06 PM	#21
CReX123 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 477 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 16	So if i get the 91 civic ex M/C, i do or dont need to change the booster????? on an 88 crx hf

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