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BodyDroppedNikes · 09-15-2004, 02:06 AM

i have a question or 2 about brake calipers. i need to replace the pads on the rear of my 1990 Integra. i went to change them over the weekend and there is this big (it looks like a big phillips head) screw on the back of the caliper ( i understand its for the e-brake??). i went to loosen it so i could put the new pads on, and it wouldnt budge one bit. a buddy of mine said that because its basically frozen, that i would need to put new calipers on. well i dont have alot of money to spend at the moment. i know of a junkyard near by me that has 2 90-93 Integras in the yard, and i was wondering if i got the calipers from them, that it would work fine. would this be something i could do for now? like i said, i dont have alot of money to spend on new calipers and i need these brakes fixed ASAP. thanks for the help!!

Slo86GT · 09-15-2004, 03:06 AM

I ran into this recently, also.

You have to screw it IN to get the pads on. I just used a big screwdriver, it was a PITFA, but they make a cross shaped tool for this.

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-15-2004, 12:04 PM

i bought a brake caliper tool and it wouldnt budge with that either. i also tried C-clamps and nothing.

Calesta · 09-15-2004, 12:13 PM

Lay a long skinny flat blade screwdriver along the cross section and turn it a quarter turn at a time. It's worked for me in the past.

asmallsol · 09-15-2004, 12:45 PM

edited because I didn't mean to quote mike

DO NOT USE a c-clamp in the rear. If you cant get the piston to go down by screwing it in, chances are you need a new caliper. Rear calipers are pretty cheap, so it wont set you back to far.

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-15-2004, 12:53 PM

yeah i seen that new ones are cheap, but i dont have alot of money to spend. i just want to know if ones from a junkyard (from the same type of car of course) would work fine for now??

i know it sounds like a dumb question but i am practically broke and i need these fixed soon.

asmallsol · 09-15-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by TrailorParkPimp@Sep 15 2004, 12:53 PM
yeah i seen that new ones are cheap, but i dont have alot of money to spend. i just want to know if ones from a junkyard (from the same type of car of course) would work fine for now??

i know it sounds like a dumb question but i am practically broke and i need these fixed soon.

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Well, yes they will work, however, make sure that they do not have the same problem that yours has. Since most cars sit in junkyards for so long and brakes are rarely taken off, many of the brake componets have rusted to shit.

B16 · 09-15-2004, 06:10 PM

the caliper tool you speak of, is this the one? if not, this is what you need.

asmallsol · 09-15-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by B16@Sep 15 2004, 06:10 PM
the caliper tool you speak of, is this the one? if not, this is what you need.

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brake caliper cube ^^^^^

I hate using those things

I always either using a set of neddle nose pliers or the shaft of a screw driver.

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-16-2004, 01:19 AM

yeah thats the caliper tool i have. one guy at work suggested that i heat up that big ass bolt on the back of the caliper to loosen it. wouldnt that weaken it??

TDaddy · 09-16-2004, 01:25 AM

You need to crack the bleeder and then use a big flat head screwdriver to screw that bastard in...you will lose some break fluid when you do this and need to add some. I doubt that it's frozen if your breaks are currently working except for needing new pads.

Calesta · 09-16-2004, 01:27 AM

Yeah, try that. If it still doesn't work, you can use the junkyard calipers- just make sure to rebuild them with a rebuild kit from AutoZone or something. The kits are pretty cheap- they're generally just a bunch of gaskets and O rings.

asmallsol · 09-16-2004, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by TDaddy@Sep 16 2004, 01:25 AM
You need to crack the bleeder and then use a big flat head screwdriver to screw that bastard in...you will lose some break fluid when you do this and need to add some. I doubt that it's frozen if your breaks are currently working except for needing new pads.

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Don't open up the bleeder screw. The only thing you need to do to let the fluid go somewhere is to take off the resivoir cap.

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-16-2004, 02:01 AM

right on! thanks for the suggestions all. if you got any more, let me know.

Calesta · 09-16-2004, 03:28 PM

Modify a harpoon gun to shoot a boat anchor out of your trunk every time you want to stop? You could have a winch to hoist it back in when the light turns green.

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-16-2004, 11:06 PM

LOL Mike

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-19-2004, 02:51 PM

well we(me and my friend wes) got the new pads in. we did the rear passenger side first which was a breeze. the rear drivers side wasnt. got the caliper off the rotor and pulled the old pads, then we tried to loosen that big ass phillips head screw deal on the back of the caliper so we could get the new pads in. we used that crappy ass brake caliper tool deal (pandoras box as wes calls it) and couldnt get that fucker to give...hell we even ground the box down some to fit the tool in to give enough clearance. nothing. so we went to AutoZone to look for a better tool and i asked the guy at the parts counter to see if they have one and he tells us they have one we could rent. we look at it and decided to try it since it was $40 to rent. we got that and came back to my place, and went to town on it. wes had to use alot of force to get it to budge but he got it to release. put the new pads in, tightened everything down and put the wheels on. THEN discovered one of my wheels bent...GOD DAMMIT!! well its gotta hold up so i can get back to Virginia with it so i can look at getting some new wheels later on when i can afford some. ahh well...the brakeswork great (broke em) and i got no more damn annoying squeeking coming from them. im glad thats done and over with.

2000Si · 09-19-2004, 02:53 PM

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THEN discovered one of my wheels bent

Slo86GT · 09-19-2004, 03:42 PM

Yay. Score 1 for the trailer park pimp.

liquid00meth · 09-19-2004, 05:04 PM

curbed one of your dubs eh?

BodyDroppedNikes · 09-19-2004, 05:11 PM

they 15s but i keeps em clean

Calesta · 09-20-2004, 11:54 AM

I'm glad you got it together man. You can stil use the boat anchor as a backup though.

2000Si · 09-20-2004, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by liquid00meth@Sep 19 2004, 04:04 PM
curbed one of your dubs eh?

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those were actually the same rims on my old escort... I've hit the curbs plenty of times but never noticed anything from the rims.

cycloneb18c3 · 09-25-2004, 09:31 PM

for future refrence dont heat calipers up with torch=bad idea. we did this on my car then I went bleed the brakes, and brake fluid came out around the piston. the seals on the piston are rubber, and rubber melts....

09-15-2004, 03:06 AM	#2
Slo86GT Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis - Hellhole of the South Posts: 3,367 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 48	I ran into this recently, also. You have to screw it IN to get the pads on. I just used a big screwdriver, it was a PITFA, but they make a cross shaped tool for this. __________________ - Jody - 2004 Colorado ZQ8 - I5, M5, Regular cab - 209.9whp/210.7wtq 1986 Mustang GT - V8, M5 - 213.0whp/279.2wtq

09-15-2004, 12:13 PM	#4
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Lay a long skinny flat blade screwdriver along the cross section and turn it a quarter turn at a time. It's worked for me in the past. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

09-15-2004, 12:45 PM	#5
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	edited because I didn't mean to quote mike DO NOT USE a c-clamp in the rear. If you cant get the piston to go down by screwing it in, chances are you need a new caliper. Rear calipers are pretty cheap, so it wont set you back to far. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

09-15-2004, 06:10 PM	#8
B16 Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: yay area, CA Age: 31 Posts: 6,759 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 126	the caliper tool you speak of, is this the one? if not, this is what you need. __________________ 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 2004 BMW 325i 2000 Mercedes Benz ML 430 1994 Honda Civic Del Sol VTEC (race kaa)

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09-16-2004, 01:27 AM	#12
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Yeah, try that. If it still doesn't work, you can use the junkyard calipers- just make sure to rebuild them with a rebuild kit from AutoZone or something. The kits are pretty cheap- they're generally just a bunch of gaskets and O rings. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

09-16-2004, 03:28 PM	#15
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Modify a harpoon gun to shoot a boat anchor out of your trunk every time you want to stop? You could have a winch to hoist it back in when the light turns green. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

09-19-2004, 03:42 PM	#19
Slo86GT Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis - Hellhole of the South Posts: 3,367 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 48	Yay. Score 1 for the trailer park pimp. __________________ - Jody - 2004 Colorado ZQ8 - I5, M5, Regular cab - 209.9whp/210.7wtq 1986 Mustang GT - V8, M5 - 213.0whp/279.2wtq

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liquid00meth Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Laconia, NH Posts: 3,201 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 47	curbed one of your dubs eh? __________________ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -The thought provoking George W. Bush

09-20-2004, 11:54 AM	#22
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	I'm glad you got it together man. You can stil use the boat anchor as a backup though. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

09-25-2004, 09:31 PM	#24
cycloneb18c3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 1,056 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	for future refrence dont heat calipers up with torch=bad idea. we did this on my car then I went bleed the brakes, and brake fluid came out around the piston. the seals on the piston are rubber, and rubber melts.... __________________ whoever said nothing is impossible, never tried slamming a revolving door

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